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The 2 child benefit cap lift will be cancelled out by the weekly benefit cap

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Pinkbowls · 12/11/2025 13:24

I keep seeing all this talk about families with 6+ kids “racking it in” if the two-child benefit cap is lifted, and honestly, it’s hogwash. Here’s the reality:

If the Labour government does lift the two-child cap, it will mainly help low-income working families and families who are claiming disability benefits. These households aren’t subject to the cap, so the poorest families and those who genuinely need extra support for a third or fourth child are the ones who will benefit.

For a single adult with two children outside London, the monthly benefit cap is around £1,832 (~£423 per week). In London, it’s higher, about £2,108 per month (~£486 per week).

Now let’s break it down roughly for someone renting privately:

  • Assume the standard allowance + personal allowance for the adult + child elements (for 2 kids) = around £1,200–£1,300/month.
  • Private rent in many parts of the UK, and especially in London, can easily eat £800–£1,200/month.
  • Add council tax support (which helps a bit, but only partially) and you can see that most of the cap is already taken up.

So in reality, lifting the two-child cap doesn’t suddenly create a pile of extra cash. For families on benefits but below the cap, the extra child element for a third or fourth child may only leave a modest amount after rent and council tax.

The idea that parents with 6+ children will suddenly be sitting on a fortune is completely overblown. The system is designed so that the support goes to those who genuinely need it, not to families already comfortably above the threshold.

The main winners of this policy will be:

  • Low-income working families who are earning enough to be under the cap and can actually receive the child element for additional children.
  • Families claiming disability benefits, who aren’t subject to the cap at all.

It’s important to separate myths from reality: this is about helping the most vulnerable and supporting working families, not about rewarding large families for being on benefits.

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TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 12/11/2025 13:26

For a single adult with two children outside London, the monthly benefit cap is around £1,832 (~£423 per week). In London, it’s higher, about £2,108 per month (~£486 per week).
you say that like it’s a bad amount of money to receive with out having to take on the responsibility and stress of work and paying tax!

Pinkbowls · 12/11/2025 13:28

I know that’s a lot of money. But my point is the lifting of the cap seems symbolic as a lot of people won’t actually recieve the extra money.

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millymollymoomoo · 12/11/2025 13:48

Still shouldn’t lift it at all !

Glitchymn1 · 12/11/2025 13:50

Hard agree with pp sorry.

MossAndLeaves · 12/11/2025 13:54

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 12/11/2025 13:26

For a single adult with two children outside London, the monthly benefit cap is around £1,832 (~£423 per week). In London, it’s higher, about £2,108 per month (~£486 per week).
you say that like it’s a bad amount of money to receive with out having to take on the responsibility and stress of work and paying tax!

Could you comfortably live off that?..

PandoraSocks · 12/11/2025 13:57

YANBU at all to point this out, but people will still be outraged and froth about money being spent on nails, tats, fags etc.

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 13:58

MossAndLeaves · 12/11/2025 13:54

Could you comfortably live off that?..

Why should somebody not working be ‘comfortable’? If they were there would be no incentive to work, surely?

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 12/11/2025 13:58

MossAndLeaves · 12/11/2025 13:54

Could you comfortably live off that?..

I’m not on minimum wage, but some one who is who only gets about £100 more a month for working 37.5 hrs a week has to!

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 14:00

But the cap doesn’t apply where disability is involved and with 700,000 children with EHCPs and 1.7 million with ‘SEN’ how many families do you think are getting far more? I know MANY families with not just 1 but 2+ kids receiving DLA on top of uncapped benefits. In fact I’m genuinely surprised to ever hear about a family that claims but doesn’t have SEN involved.

MidnightPatrol · 12/11/2025 14:04

MossAndLeaves · 12/11/2025 13:54

Could you comfortably live off that?..

An average salary of £35k after tax, auto-enrolment and student loan is £2,228 a month.

TwoTuesday · 12/11/2025 14:10

I think it's bizarre that benefits need to be capped, surely it's a sign they are too high to start with, or why would a cap be needed?
It is so complicated. It's wrong that employers pay poverty wages and taxpayers have to subsidise that via benefits. Someone who is in work and not on benefits doesn't get paid more for having more kids. Their taxes will go up to pay for the no cap policy so their own kids will have less.

Ablondiebutagoody · 12/11/2025 14:16

2 grand per month tax free for doing fuck all?! No wonder my taxes are going up. Can't have those guys needing to work for a living can we.

Nightlight8 · 12/11/2025 14:19

YABU op.

caringcarer · 12/11/2025 14:20

You could have 10 DC and either you or just one of those dc has to have a disability and the entire cap is lifted

Screwyousimon · 12/11/2025 14:21

Ablondiebutagoody · 12/11/2025 14:16

2 grand per month tax free for doing fuck all?! No wonder my taxes are going up. Can't have those guys needing to work for a living can we.

Quite. I used to work a 50 hour week between 2 jobs when my DC were little it was really really hard but it did not even occur to me to claim benefits. The country is a shit show, no wonder people are pissed off with their taxes going up.

Leavesfalling · 12/11/2025 14:22

Don't have kids if you can't afford it. Most people seem to understand this concept.

Leavesfalling · 12/11/2025 14:24

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 13:58

Why should somebody not working be ‘comfortable’? If they were there would be no incentive to work, surely?

Exactly

RLTraitors · 12/11/2025 14:25

There should be a cap on number of children. Perhaps 2 should go to 3.

But no it shouldn’t be to infinity! That is ridiculous when many working people (who don’t receive benefits) can’t afford more than 2/3 if any!

Julen7 · 12/11/2025 14:26

Thank God mostly sensible comments on here.

Nightlight8 · 12/11/2025 14:28

PandoraSocks · 12/11/2025 13:57

YANBU at all to point this out, but people will still be outraged and froth about money being spent on nails, tats, fags etc.

People are outraged because the suggestion is not right. Taxes are going up but on the other hand the Gov want to give out money to people who choose to have more than 2 kids. It doesn't make any sense does it?

Julen7 · 12/11/2025 14:29

Nightlight8 · 12/11/2025 14:28

People are outraged because the suggestion is not right. Taxes are going up but on the other hand the Gov want to give out money to people who choose to have more than 2 kids. It doesn't make any sense does it?

No but this govt doesn’t do sensible

user1471538275 · 12/11/2025 14:30

It shouldn't be 'comfortable'. If you are supported by the state - no matter the reason, whether pension credit, no work available in your area, unable to work due to illness, caring duties etc then it should be a basic existence.

Basic food, basic shelter, basic provision of utilities.

If you want more than this (essentially a universal basic income) then working should allow you to have a better standard of living.

Not working should never leave you having a better lifestyle than people working full time.

There has to be an incentive to work the difficult stressful low paid jobs in our society - and more and more jobs are being rolled into 'low pay' by the day.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 12/11/2025 14:34

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 12/11/2025 13:26

For a single adult with two children outside London, the monthly benefit cap is around £1,832 (~£423 per week). In London, it’s higher, about £2,108 per month (~£486 per week).
you say that like it’s a bad amount of money to receive with out having to take on the responsibility and stress of work and paying tax!

Yeah I'm not on benefits and I don't earn that much straight off, and that doesn't even take into account reduced/free council tax, prescriptions, dental care, childcare/HAFS, holiday food vouchers per child, breakfast and afterschool clubs, reduced transport cost, winter hardship fund, and all the other discounts...it's crazy

Goalpace · 12/11/2025 14:37

You are welcome to correct my maths here, but £1,832 per month, is the equivalent of about of a salary of £26,500 per year pre tax?

Ilovecakey · 12/11/2025 14:46

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 14:00

But the cap doesn’t apply where disability is involved and with 700,000 children with EHCPs and 1.7 million with ‘SEN’ how many families do you think are getting far more? I know MANY families with not just 1 but 2+ kids receiving DLA on top of uncapped benefits. In fact I’m genuinely surprised to ever hear about a family that claims but doesn’t have SEN involved.

You say that like people are choosing to have a child with SEN

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