WASPI Women - getting compensated

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I've just read this:

The government will reconsider its decision not to award compensation to Waspi women, Work and Pensions Secretary Pat McFadden has said.

And I'm livid at the incompetence of Labour.

Having put the issue to bed once, they are now going to create a heap of trouble for themselves.

Either they decide (again) not to make any payouts - in which case, cue more outrage from WASPI and negative headlines.

Or they decide now that they will make payouts - which goes directly against the whole "we have to raise taxes" budget.

Or are they really so stupid that they're going to carry on paying everyone, raising salaries for Public Sector, 2-child cap, WFP, etc and carry on bleating about a black hole and how we must all pay more tax.

Am I being unreasonable that this seems like madness?

Exactly.

Like I said, I was born and grew up in an era when women received the state pension at 60. The pension age was equalised (quite rightly) and then extended… I won’t received state pension until 67. And while obviously I’d prefer to get it sooner (wouldn’t we all?!) I understand the reasons behind the changes and the need for pensions to be affordable.

im afraid far too many women don’t give enough consideration to their financial future. Among friends, acquaintances, even family members of around my age there are women who:

*still think they ‘should’ be able to retire and get state pension at 60

• have worked part time for years (in some cases never returning to full time even after their kids are adults) and are then surprised that their work pension is a fraction of what it could be

*have no interest in discussing or even thinking about pensions

The statistics show that women as a group are far more likely to be poor in their older age than men. It’s very frustrating when it’s women themselves who aren’t taking that fact seriously.

it’s also worth noting that the men in this age group have also been affected - those expecting to retire at 65 who’ve had their pensionable age pushed back to 66, 67…. Yet we don’t hear anything from them - presumably because they heeded the campaigns about pensions.

Calm down. Your post is a mix of offensiveness and fabrication.

"Bullshit comments" - rude, you just don't agree with me.

"Judgemental" - I don't believe I have said anything judgemental, if I have you'll have to quote me. You on the other hand have described my attitude as "horrendous" completely missing the point that my children do not need help, they are doing fine.

You are perfectly entitled not to like me, but surely "sickening" is a bit strong.

As for your last made up allegation, I have explicitly said that I neither need not want compensation. I came on to this thread on to counter the spectacular rudeness which some posters were directing at older women. And so of course I have found myself the target of it.

Calm down.

Really? Come on now…

“Bullshit comments" - rude, you just don't agree with me.

Kinship placements aside, no grandparent is raising their grandchildren for working parents. Helping out, yes. Raising? Don’t be so ridiculous. So yes, bullshit comments.

And so of course I have found myself the target of it.

You are the target of nothing beyond being called out for your comments about young families, and young women. As I said, your lack of awareness is abysmal.

Can you two stop it, please?

Sure - this thread doesn’t affect me, so apologies for the derail.

Have you seen how much tax the top 100 tax payers paid last year?

You mean like this?

https://taxjustice.uk/blog/the-prime-minister-pays-the-same-rate-of-tax-as-a-teacher/

I agree with you. Any half intelligent person knew the pension age was going up, way before it happened. They got to retire at 65. I am 59, so won’t retire until I am 67. But I have to accept it and get on with it. Should I start the campaign that it’s not fair that I have just missed retiring at 65? It’s getting ridiculous and like you I do not want to pay towards their compensation. The great thing for your generation is that companies have to offer pension schemes, which they didn’t have to when I was younger, so I hope you will be able to build bigger pots. I will always push for better conditions for the younger generation, you are having a tough time. Hang on in there and let’s hope things get better.

No. Read my words. The top 100 tax payers.

The vast majority of women and men were aware of the changes. Specifically, the vast majority of women in the WASPI age range were aware. There was a massive national campaign about the changes. Leaflets, adverts in national papers, letters, pension statements which pretty much had ‘THIS IS IMPORTANT. READ IT’ as a header.

But the top 100 taxpayers are the ones who are, in fact, paying tax. The problem is the ones who structure their affairs so as to stay off that list - high net worth individuals and corporations.

I am pointing out that a lot of wealthy people pay a lot of tax.

And a lot don’t. They get it offshore and into legal(but immoral) schemes. It was one of the drivers of Brexit as they’d lose some ways of doing that. The loopholes need closing.