Husband wants to move to dubai

[Dilemma87]

My husband is a businessman in property and with the recent proposed tax changes and new rules putting limits on how long he can keep doing things from the UK, he’s now saying he needs to move to Dubai and operate from there.

We actually have some friends there, and his business partner is already based out there, so on paper it all sounds easy enough. His plan is to buy a second property in Dubai and move there by himself, while I stay here with the kids.

The problem is, the children are really settled one’s in high school and the other is due to start soon, so moving them just isn’t an option. He’s suggested that we (me and the kids) fly out to Dubai every school holiday to spend time with him.

The catch is, under his visa he can only be out of Dubai for 90 days a year, so he’d basically have to live there full-time.

AIBU to think this is just not going to work long-term? I can’t help but feel like this is the start of living completely separate lives.

Shhh 🤫 Stop clouding the issue with sensible feedback

If someone wanted to move from Finland to the UK due to lower taxes would we tell them to stay in Finland

This proposal sounds sad to me, wouldn't he miss his family? Could he sell the businesses, stay and do something else in the UK?

I know what you mean. There is definitely a lot of work still to do.

However, I'd push back on some of what you say. Yes, UK partner homicide is unacceptably high. Murder overall is a lot lower in Dubai, partly because of the death penalty, but I wouldn't want that here. Notably it's lower and getting still lower in Europe : why?

Rarely safe to walk alone at night? Depends where you are. Where I am (S London) ut generally it, but I live in a very safe borough. However, I'd question whether this is a problem of misogyny rather than general public safety.

Men are actually much more likely to be physically attacked by strangers than women, including both night and daytime assaults. Women are more likely than men to be sexually assaulted by a stranger, but most rapes are by known perpetrators, not strangers.

Significant pay gap? Yes, there is a pay gap, but it's mainly not due to discrimination. Equal pay for equal work has been mandatory since the 70s, the gap is mainly because of the motherhood penalty and women mainly choosing lower-paying jobs. We need to improve those things but that is not the same as overt discrimination.

As to GC : I thought GC beliefs were now officially protected since the Forstater case? And do rape victims still have to call rapists 'she'? I thought that was stopped by the SC judgement?

Tbf, that view would have been commonly held in the UK pre-1967, and in the years immediately after, so only 50 years ago. It was officially illegal in several US states until the 2000s, and many people disagreed with the Lawrence vs Texas decision that struck down those laws, there's even talk of bringing them back.

I strongly disagree with such laws, but is there a huge problem IF such people still treat gay family members with kindness and respect?

That is the real problem, that far too many will not do that. Not what people privately believe, thoughts are not an issue by themselves.

Tax dodging is a shameful reason to relocate and your relationship will be doomed...

The issue is that our taxes are misused. Far fewer people would find if they were useful for public services' improvement effectivelym

She does, but he clearly earns mega bucks if moving to Dubai would make such a big difference (which btw, I still dont think is the real reason he wants to go and leave her and the kids behind). So what he would put into to the pot would contribute far more to what his family is taking out than his wifes taxes. Also, her job is civil service so he wants her paid by literally every other tax payer but him.

My opinion on non tax payers and benefit claimants is that its for a reason. Benefit fraud in the UK is just over 2% of all claimants and believe me (thank you redundancy) claiming non working benefits is not easy. Perhaps it used to be but it isnt anymore. Non tax payers are that because they are on very low incomes, a lot of those will be carers or those who cant do longer hours. My own son has cerebal palsy so doesnt work at the moment as is waiting for another surgery on his hips and then another on his spine, but when he did he could only do limited hours. So, no problem.

My opinion on tax dodgers however would be mainly written in a stream of four letter words.

How dare someone who has worked hard and built a business be allowed to keep a morsel of what they've earned

Apology accepted.

Okay, so those who avoid paying their taxes are also likely to avoid being faithful to their wives.

Happy now?

Either way, the OP needs to get legal advice quickly.

The UK courts do not have jurisdiction over foreign assets and cannot enforce settlement orders against assets held in Dubai. Those who like to avoid paying their taxes are also likely to want to avoid paying a proper settlement to their ex-wives.

Oh yeah, the people getting a few grand UC are definitely worse than the trillionaires with their shell companies and offshore accounts, living in tax havens. 🙄🙄🙄

Trust me when I say good riddance we can do without you. The gap you leave can easily be filled by one of the many, many talented people who do have morals, empathy and a backbone.

There are no trillionaires.

A internet search tells me that most of the top uk billionaire are self made anyway. They've made good businesses as products we like, employ lots of people.

The device I'm typing this is on is thanks to a billionaire

Oh give over. He can keep plenty of it. He just wants to keep all of it, and have other people stump up for services that his family will continue to use. While living a bachelor life with “female friends” and ensuring his assets are in a country where his wife won’t have any claim to them should they divorce.

Really? Why some people are so angry then?
maybe they don’t want to pay higher taxes to make up for a exodus of a small number of high earners propping up the system? 🤣

I'd like to keep all of it as well. Good on him.

The cheating and unfaithfulness is a separate issue though.

I read that the 1% pay a lot of tax here anyway

This thread is a bit of eye opener in how the apparent left wing are incredibly racist

I cant think of much worse than living somewhere like Dubai because its simply not my cup of tea, but lots of people holiday in places where the laws are completely different to the UK and ones that we wouldnt necessarily vote in ourselves (perhaps, some would Im sure)

But more to the point, all these people up in arms about someone considering moving away from the UK to this particular country, presumably wouldnt be up in arms about the numbers of people from other countries moving here, to work, with family back home to continue to support. That family enjoying their life in their original country and culture but some of the members of the family moving here to make money, progress themselves etc etc

Are there groups of people back home in those peoples countries shouting them down and talking about how they're 'disgusting' for leaving their home country, and their kids still in their schools, accessing their health care etc etc?

Are there groups of people shouting them down on the basis that 'how can you move to a country where they allow their kids rights, let their kids go out on their own, let their kids choose their marriage partners etc etc (or whatever cultural norm in this country they dont agree with)

There are groups like that back home btw. I’m an immigrant and there definitely are.

(Funny that UK indeed is not worried about the fact that another country paid for my education which now allows me to benefit UK economy with my high earner taxes 😂)

Where did you move from if you don't mind me asking?

@WildLimePoet Tell me you don’t understand tax without telling me you don’t understand tax.

I do understand tax.

As I said, I don't care if anyone leaves because of tax.

If you do so, please do not return because you will not be welcome back.

If they are a UK citizen they have every right to depart and return as they please

Don't kid yourself. Absolutely no one in the UK cares if you leave here.

That’s too outing! Let’s say it’s a country somewhat in Europe

The law in the UK also allows people to idle their engines for no reason. That doesn't mean they should do it.