The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

And while we are all putting the beeb under the microscope over how the Panorama report was edited, here's an interesting announcement: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/us/giuilani-pardon-trump-john-eastman-sidney-powell.html

Or...an appropriate response to a febrile thread title...

It’s been the dominant news on BBC News all
morning, still is.

You don't need a TV Licence for the radio, you can continue to listen to them all without repercussion. I've cancelled mine because they've binned Science In Action after 60 years, there's nothing else I want from the BBC, by not paying my licence I can now afford to pay for content I do watch.

@nomas didnt say it wasn’t dominating what I said that in my observations only Trump has dominated not all the other elements.

Agreed. If you want a much better discussion of what's happened, Free Speech Nation devoted 2 hours to it last night, with a wide range of commentators. Whatever you think of GB News, this was an excellent programme.

https://www.youtube.com/live/fyfgHCXERZY?si=3sy3r1OQJi0BhCOz

Yes, and the absolute joke that is BBC Verify. Headed up by a woman who lied to get the job and repeatedly lies on all sorts of things she is claiming to fact check.

She wouldn’t know a fact if it bit her on the arse.

This is shocking ( but sadly, unsurprising )

"A BBC News at Ten editor “deferred” to a junior reporter on what language he should use when reporting transgender stories, a veteran BBC broadcast journalist has claimed.
Cath Leng, a former chief writer for BBC News, also alleged that she was “forced out” in 2023 over her gender critical views after 25 years of working for the corporation.
She claimed that journalists and editors across BBC News were “complicit” in the censorship of stories that reflected the gender critical side of the trans debate."

https://x.com/nickwallis/status/1987857528064024777?t=93h8pBfTP0czPZzRLWiBwQ&s=19

I don't want to see the end of the BBC but it's not enough to just swap out a couple of leaders, although it's clear from the memo that Jonathan Munro (BBC News Global Director and Deputy CEO of BBC News & Current Affairs) should immediately resign.

The Executive Committee and the Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee need a massive shake up.

BBC Arabic needs completely dismantling and rebuilding from scratch with intensive oversight.

BBC Verify and the LGBTQ desk should just be got rid of altogether.

Everyone involved with editorial decision making around Panorama: Trump: A Second Chance? needs to go, not just those responsible for the edited video.

There needs to be a thorough investigation into the Newsnight team, particularly those responsible for the programme about the Cass Review and the programme that included the claim that 14,000 children in Gaza would starve within 48 hours.

Also those responsible for factual history programming and editing.

Also those responsible for the style guide, complaints and push notifications.

These are just from the memo. Obviously the rot runs much deeper as anyone knows who's been involved with the fight against gender identity ideology for any length of time. In particular the BBC must be held to account for the harm they have done to children through things like I Am Leo, their gender identity content in schools programming and gushing features on 'trans kids' and 'drag kids'.

We know that the criticisms on sex and gender in the memo are just the tip of the iceberg. I don't believe for one second that sex and gender is the only iceberg.

It is worth taking a moment to reflect on who is agitating for change and why, and who would be delighted to see the back of the BBC, and why.

It would be ironic if outrage over failures in meeting high standards led to a landscape of lower standards across the board.

We have lots of options. Let's consider them carefully.

1,000 votes and 2/3 want the BBC to have the licence fee removed.

their charter will not be renewed in 2027 as it was before. About time there was a complete root and branch repurposing, at a tenth the size, meeting s its actual obligation to inform impartially.

Thank you, we know the BBC has enemies. It’s why these - in my opinion - self inflicted injuries are so infuriating.

Mum‘s net is not what you would call representative of the population of Great Britain is it?

@KateShugakIsALegend :

It is worth taking a moment to reflect on who is agitating for change and why

I am agitating for change because the BBC is not fulfilling its public purpose, as set out in its Royal Charter:

1. To provide impartial news and information to help people understand and engage with the world around them
The BBC should provide duly accurate and impartial news, current affairs and factual programming to build people’s understanding of all parts of the United Kingdom and of the wider world. Its content should be provided to the highest editorial standards. It should offer a range and depth of analysis and content not widely available from other United Kingdom news providers, using the highest calibre presenters and journalists, and championing freedom of expression, so that all audiences can engage fully with major local, regional, national, United Kingdom and global issues and participate in the democratic process, at all levels, as active and informed citizens

https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/governance/mission

I think that's a good reason, don't you?

Ive not paid for a TV licence for years and don't watch bbc or live tv.
I hope the POTUS sues them to breaking point, and more and more people cancel their TV licence as well

Yes, I agree that is a good reason.

Michael Prescott might have different reasons.

This thread title moves from 'change is needed' (which I agree with) to... 'and the solution is to remove the licence fee'.

Removing the licence fee is one of a range of options, and it may or may not fix the issues that have emerged.

We are at a precipice and need to tread carefully, not be led by febrile debate into unintended consequences.

Not suggesting that you, personally, were, of course.

Apparently Trump is threatening a billion dollar lawsuit.

The curse of #Gowokegobroke strikes again...

I so hope this is true and he wins.👋bbc 🤣🤣

Oh dear

Tim Davie was previously a Conservative candidate in two local government elections before joining the BBC (he didn't get elected)

I am in agreement that the BBC is a historically venerable and much-envied institution. How on earth has this insidious creep of activists within its walls been allowed to happen?

Possibly those in higher positions are too removed from the shop floor, so to speak, to know what goes on, or they desperately want to be “relevant” or have been running scared of all the usual accusations that get hurled.

You have to hand it to activists - if there was a deliberate plan to infiltrate from the bottom up they’ve done a darn good job. Get one (eg) transactivist in and then only recruit those on side.

They seem to dominate the kids’ programming (you should see the hardline commissioning staff!) and are very embedded in radio.

Michael Prescott was independent adviser to the BBC Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee. It was his job to pick up on these kinds of failings. Much of the material in his memo comes from reports by David Grossman, Senior Editorial Adviser to the Committee. Prescott wrote his memo because Grossman's reports were being largely ignored.

Do you have reason to doubt either of these men's motives? It was literally their job but you think they were really doing it for some other reason?

In the pockets of the right 😂😂😂

It’s just too easy to ring in power and keep hiring to institutionalise thinking.

Well, we should remember he has been paid a lot of money by Sky and Facebook, who could be said to have vested interests in this area:

The FT in 2021 ran an article setting out concerns around his conflict of interest, when Johnson involved him in Ofcom recruitment.

https://www.ft.com/content/36d958ff-f6fc-45f2-bcd9-c2f088f74bf7

I am not challenging the content of his report, not that he was right to push for change.

I am advocating for critical thinking.