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To throw adopted DS out?

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Aimen0 · 07/11/2025 10:41

DS was officially adopted when he was 1, he always knew he was adopted but he had a good childhood and he was happy. His behaviour wasn't always perfect (he got detentions in school etc) but no child is perfect all the time!

He's now 17, 18 in march and he's barely home, very into drugs and when he is home he's unpleasant to be around. He shouts at the dog, gets in my face and has hit his DH. He was accused of spiking a girls drink with pills (it wasn't reported and he denies this, but I don't know what to believe).

We don't know what to do anymore, DH also works away so it's just me most of the time. The friends he had from school etc have distanced themselves so it's just friends that are into drugs.

I'm at my wits’ end and so worried about him. I don't know if I actually would go through with throwing him out but I don't know what to do

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Weetwood · 08/11/2025 08:12

NearlyDec · 08/11/2025 01:28

Yes, the child have will broken attatchment when removed from Mum and again when removed from foster carers. This causes life long trauma.

Most counsellors are unabled to work with adopted people, even if the adoption was 50 years ago.

The regulation that registered therapists had to be specially trained to work with adoptees was removed fairly recently. This was I think because it backfired and meant that adoptees couldn’t access therapy because the few specialists had such long waiting lists. I think now therapists just have a professional obligation to work within their capabilities, as with other issues.

The broken attachment would apply to all children not raised by birth families, although how much people are affected varies a lot. More recent adoptees in the uk (ie not those of us from the 1950s to the 1970) almost always have a lot more to deal with than that, ie the abuse, drug exposure before birth etc that are the reasons for the adoption . Sadly, too often, no amount of love can fix the unseen damage.

NearlyDec · 08/11/2025 08:50

Weetwood · 08/11/2025 08:12

The regulation that registered therapists had to be specially trained to work with adoptees was removed fairly recently. This was I think because it backfired and meant that adoptees couldn’t access therapy because the few specialists had such long waiting lists. I think now therapists just have a professional obligation to work within their capabilities, as with other issues.

The broken attachment would apply to all children not raised by birth families, although how much people are affected varies a lot. More recent adoptees in the uk (ie not those of us from the 1950s to the 1970) almost always have a lot more to deal with than that, ie the abuse, drug exposure before birth etc that are the reasons for the adoption . Sadly, too often, no amount of love can fix the unseen damage.

Ah that is good for therapy. As the Op’s son adoption went through before he was 1 I did wonder if he was removed at birth so less likely to be added family trauma. But we know there are concerns for children surrogacy and the broken attatchment there.

ThePieceHall · 08/11/2025 08:56

Weetwood · 08/11/2025 08:12

The regulation that registered therapists had to be specially trained to work with adoptees was removed fairly recently. This was I think because it backfired and meant that adoptees couldn’t access therapy because the few specialists had such long waiting lists. I think now therapists just have a professional obligation to work within their capabilities, as with other issues.

The broken attachment would apply to all children not raised by birth families, although how much people are affected varies a lot. More recent adoptees in the uk (ie not those of us from the 1950s to the 1970) almost always have a lot more to deal with than that, ie the abuse, drug exposure before birth etc that are the reasons for the adoption . Sadly, too often, no amount of love can fix the unseen damage.

The law change is only for adult adoptees; it still stands that counsellors/therapists working with adopted children have to be registered with Ofsted. My LA outsources its youth mental wellbeing services to a local charity - which has a brilliant reputation - but the organisation is not Ofsted registered so my ADs are not able to access any support

CinnamonBuns67 · 08/11/2025 11:15

I do think it's odd that you've brought up that he's your "adopted DS" rather than just your DS. Would you feel differently if he was biologically yours? Yanbu to throw him out as his behaviour is intolerable but it would be unreasonable if you wouldn't if he was a biological son rather than adopted.

Catshaveiteasy · 08/11/2025 12:00

CinnamonBuns67 · 08/11/2025 11:15

I do think it's odd that you've brought up that he's your "adopted DS" rather than just your DS. Would you feel differently if he was biologically yours? Yanbu to throw him out as his behaviour is intolerable but it would be unreasonable if you wouldn't if he was a biological son rather than adopted.

I think possibly adding 'adopted' makes it seem as if OP sees him as somehow 'lesser'. Let's face it, society does too. Children in schools use the word as a term of abuse (you must have been adopted/ your mum probably wishes you'd been adopted). People can pity adoptees - and clearly it's not a good thing to have been adopted, though it's usually the best choice for the child given their circumstances.

However, as an adoptive parent myself, I don't think OP necessarily meant that her son was 'less' hers than a birth son. If I use that term to talk about my children, it's as an explanation of WHY there might be more issues, not a reflection of my view of them. I love them dearly and they are definitely part of my family.

Giggorata · 08/11/2025 12:30

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” I don't think OP necessarily meant that her son was 'less' hers than a birth son. If I use that term to talk about my children, it's as an explanation of WHY there might be more issues, not a reflection of my view of them. I love them dearly and they are definitely part of my family.“
That was my take on it, too.

Irenesortof · 08/11/2025 12:37

ThePieceHall · 07/11/2025 22:21

Adopted children today have been exposed to drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, chaotic and dysfunctional family settings both in utero and in their early years. Why would you think that adoption is a magic wand that erases these adverse childhood experiences, not to mention the extremely high heritability factors of significant mental health disorders and neurodivergences of their birth parents. Children are only removed in the most extreme of circumstances nowadays. Adopted children are the most vulnerable of society’s children as they have been legally severed from their families of origin. Can you imagine nurturing your own child in your womb for nine months and then having to give them up. And then having society think it will be all be okay because another kind-hearted family would take them in? Think on!

Eh?? You are putting words into my mouth. I never said or thought anything of the sort.

ThePieceHall · 08/11/2025 12:40

Giggorata · 08/11/2025 12:30

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” I don't think OP necessarily meant that her son was 'less' hers than a birth son. If I use that term to talk about my children, it's as an explanation of WHY there might be more issues, not a reflection of my view of them. I love them dearly and they are definitely part of my family.“
That was my take on it, too.

And mine.

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