To ask how much you think income tax will rise by?

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We’re absolutely financially at our limit… I’m so incredibly stressed. An income tax rise will break us and we won’t be able to afford it. We won’t have money to eat.

What do you think it’ll be? I just want to curl up and cry- we can’t take anymore increases our bills , mortgage everything has increased we have no spare money at all

Thatcher only managed to reduce the basic rate of income tax because she sold off all our industries and utilities (that's been a great success, I'm sure you'll all agree). Now there is nothing to sell off, plus we have to afford the shambles of Brexit (costs us £850M per week as opposed to EU membership which was £350M). So this is why tax has to go back up.

People don't like reality.

It is a narrative some like to push. No idea why, especially given the info from the Times analysis.

That is true hence Labour coming up a cropper so soon.

A few support them still, but not many. People are finding out the reality of Labour.

What ‘narrative’ can you be specific?

It shouldn’t be increased.

Those who can work, should be made to work, and pay income tax and NI.

It’s not fair to ask working people to pay more tax when there are so many people taking out of the pot.

They are milking the cow dead.

Any extra tax I have to pay will be clawed back one way or another. I’m sick of working in a stressful job, long hours to pay for the workshy in this country.

It is a narrative some like to push. No idea why, especially given the info from the Times analysis.

But it shows the mentality of some of the electorate which is incredibly depressing.

The one cottonwoolie set out in their post!

Rich, with broad shoulders. 🙄

That is true hence Labour coming up a cropper so soon.

What does this mean @EasternStandard are you saying there will be an earlier than planned election. Who do you think will end up in power?

The Times below mentions Reform and benefits.

Can you be specific on what you are referring to?

@EasternStandard what is your question?

Where has anyone posted the majority of Labour voters are on benefits?

It is the case Labour backbenchers dropped welfare reforms and were concerned about votes

I think a lot of people are thick or lack critical thinking skills to be more polite hence why a core of the Reform supporters are on benefits

I’m really not sure what you’re finding depressing.

MPs act for their core voters, that’s politics. They felt enough pressure to do so.

I think you’ve summed up with ‘the majority of Labour voters are on benefits’. I’m not sure how you jumped to that.

Ok are you sure you want to put those two things together?

You’ve put thick and benefits in the same line.

I find it depressing that people are thick & have learned nothing from Brexit.

I find it depressing that people don't want to acknowledge the real issues and prefer partisan politics.

I find it depressing people post stupid comments that are meaningless.

It doesn’t tally with what Labour are doing, presumably from pressure over votes.

Equally I'm not sure how you jumped to the above

That is true hence Labour coming up a cropper so soon.

Or what the above means.

But you do you!

Private sector here. 1.6% increase. Over my 20+ years of working normally zero or 1.somethig increase.

Got made redundant approx 4 years ago, now on less than I got 4 years ago 🤣. But grateful to have a job. 🙏😊

A lot of people are thick.

I am not supportive of such comments, to be honest. I dont find them helpful.

Ok are you sure you want to put those two things together?

I'm well aware of what I wrote, I think it's stupid to be on benefits and vote for a party that wants to cut them.

Now do you want to argue with me all day or do you have anything meaningful to contribute to the debate?

Your previous post is kind of off and I’m sure you wouldn’t say that for another voter receiving benefits.

But I agree people are struggling with reality. However most are realising Labour are not delivering.

@Polaris81 I acknowledge it's not helpful but I do find it frustrating & depressing. Brexit was so recent, I genuinely don't understand why people think Reform are going to create this low tax utopia.

Not at all. I wonder why some are still wedded to Labour but you do you.

But I agree people are struggling with reality. However most are realising Labour are not delivering.

Are you capable of framing any response without mentioning labour. What point are you trying to make?

Hope this Labour government is brought down soon in spectacular fashion and these incompetent, low calibre chancers get what they deserve. Unfortunately, that will require an IMF bailout, which is looking more and more likely by the day.

Two Tier and Rachel from Accounts are bankrupting the country with their every move.

The country is in a rubbish position.

Outgoings = more than incomings and the delta is growing.

Keep calm and drink tea until we hear what the budget will be.

I don't think it makes a difference which political party we have right now. Things need to change, we all need to pay for Brexit, pensioners, all that COVID furlough, SEN, anxiety, whatever, the costs have to decrease and the taxes increased.