17yr old boy found guilty of child abuse

[Ikeasucks]

Aibu to be pissed at how many women here were so scathing and dismissive of those in the past who said we weren’t comfortable with our babies/toddlers/very young children having male carers in a nursery setting or as a nanny etc? We were told condescendingly how ignorant and bigoted we were - i don’t fucking care at how right in you are and superior i still feel the same way www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cze665j2y51o?at_medium=social&at_link_type=web_link&at_format=video&at_link_origin=BBC_Surrey&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_link_id=4FF97A8E-B8A8-11F0-A794-E0B1162F2AD3

Not really - do parents using nurseries get to pick who will be changing their babies nappy or taking their toddler to the loo. And male and females are not equal when it comes to sex crimes - it’s hugely a male crime

I think you got the wrong end of the stick. They are angry with those who say they feel safer with kids at childminder's over nursery which is simply naive as in case of childminder's you'd simply almost never find out. It's literally impossible to know who has access and almost all will have some male family and friends having access.
With nursery it's a lot less likely.

I do think it's wrong for nursery to allow the teenage boy opportunity to be with kids one on one.
No I don't need isolated examples of women carrying our offenses cited at me, we all know men are about a million times more likely to be a threat.

I do think it's wrong for nursery to allow the teenage boy opportunity to be with kids one on one.
No I don't need isolated examples of women carrying our offenses cited at me, we all know men are about a million times more likely to be a threat.

On your logic OP @Ikeasucks we shouldn't allow 22 year olds to work in nurseries either or female ones?

https://www.cps.gov.uk/london-south/news/nursery-worker-who-abused-multiple-children-convicted-child-cruelty
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/former-nursery-worker-child-cruelty-roksana-helena-lecka-b2770884.html

or women called Vanessa?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Plymouth_child_abuse_case

You do know one in 5 or 10 men is probably a pervert, in some cultures now arriving in the UK from societies based on abuse of women predatory behaviour is the norm.

Why did the nursery hire him? Probably was someone woke like you or someone like him, wanting someone cheap and not caring about the children.

Men are more likely to commit these kinds of crimes. So a man in this position is a greater risk than a woman in this position. That’s a statistical fact. So I’d never send my children to a nursery with a male staff member, because it is a greater risk, don’t care it’s not politically correct. Yes women commit awful crimes too, but not at the same rate men too. A nursery with male staff is absolutely statistically more dangerous than a nursery with all female staff.

Men should never be in employed positions where they have unsupervised contact with children. The statistical risk is too great. Good men understand this and won't demand it.

Men doing jobs that provide individual access to vulnerable children and intimate care, quite possibly not.
Or ensure proper supervision that a male is never on his own with a preverbal child.

This is exactly what I said. How was he able to carry out these horrendous acts surrounded by other people and surely being supervised by members of staff? It's absolutely sickening what happened to those poor babies. Not all males should be tarred with this brush though its a very tragic case where multiple people should be held accountable.

Men are statistically so much more of a threat to children than women are.

You are just plain wrong.

It's why it makes me laugh when women pull the old - why is my ex not happy for me to have my new boyfriend around our kids when he has his new girlfriend around our kids..

Because the exes new girlfriend is so much less of a threat than your boyfriend.

There's been such a spate of sexual abuse of children by male daycare workers in Australia that there are calls to make the role female-only. It's not an isolated event.

female nurses have killed children

it makes more sense to change how people work with small children to avoid time alone

your child is more at risk form a father or uncle but you don’t manage that risk in the same way

Silly. The risk is not the same.

Wow - did you mean to be so rude?

Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?

This is sadly also the outcome of reducing ratios that the vile government has come up with and accepting demands from the naive and woke that nurseries and schools should be inspected less rigorously.

It's true though. The female prison population is tiny compared to the male.

It angers me when women jump to the defence of men and throw women under the bus and say they do it too... when there is a massive difference and actually, women don't do it the way men do.

Sorry but this is outright sexism. Males, even young males, can enjoy looking after children without any ulterior motive. You wouldn't be asking the same question about a 17-year-old girl, I bet.

Views like yours are a big part of the reason many men are such poor fathers, because they've grown up believing that caring for their children properly is somehow unnatural.

Maybe the statistical risk of abuse is too high to allow men in childcare settings, but to imply any man who would like to have a nursery job must be a pervert is an awful, outdated attitude.

You’ll always get male sympathisers on here and trying to justify it by saying “WeLl wOmEn Do It ToO” it’s such backward thinking. Another one is when they say they know a male nursery worker and he’s the sweetest man ever! Men groom whoever’s around them to get to what they want 🙄

🤨 see I just see that as creepy.

You can get help for your anxiety.

And no, your knee jerk reaction is neither rational not credible.

Child abusers can be male. Child abusers can be female. You do realise that in virtually every family, a father or brother will look after young children. Fathers parent, siblings babysit. Do you propose we stop that?

Or are you suggesting the offer of paid care somehow turns people into child abusers?

If so, how?

As the grandmother of boys it really concerns me that they will be regarded with suspicion around young children. They are decent young men who live by kindness.

Why should young men have to carry this burden of suspicion? They have already spoken of this and how uncomfortable it makes them feel.

If there is a need for children to be cared for out of the home then we have to trust the providers to do the proper checks and supervision of carers of either sex. There will be rare concerning events - some serious as this one - but that is one of the risks we take when our children are in the care of others - which they will be for much of their young lives.

It is the price we pay for not damning 50% of the population as a danger to others. I am sure that those of you with sons share this concern.

This is really sad. My son is 20 and has worked in a childcare setting. He is very much like his Dad, very paternal, autistic and is more comfortable around kids than adults really due to his social anxiety issues.

The nursery helped him get several qualifications and said so many times how much the kids lived having a male around, especially the boys, many of whom didn't have a male in their lives at home :(

Its infuriating that degenerates like this creature end up tarring all men as weirdos.

@overstimulatedhermit

I have reported your vile comment.