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To divorce or overreacting?

401 replies

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
luckylavender · 03/11/2025 14:36

Some people are never satisfied. You seem to be one of them

Butchyrestingface · 03/11/2025 14:37

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:44

Ok maybe I used the wrong bloody word!!!! My point is he never ever plans anything- dinners, drinks, cinema whatever!!!! My point is if I did not plan these things we would NEVER leave the house!

Poor bastard is probably exhausted from all the constant reassurance.

Don’t leave him, OP. I think it highly unlikely you will find someone who can meet your need for ‘emotional fulfilment’.

moderate · 03/11/2025 14:37

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:05

What are you on about? Someone suggested that idea to help me, and I like the idea. We would both sit down together and write an idea down. How would he 'forget' if it is something we can do together? What the fuck do you want from me I know I am the problem. I am in therapy. I agree I was an idiot for wanting to divorce him. What else do you want?

How would he 'forget' if it is something we can do together?

Because he won't be the one to initiate it, so nothing substantive will really have changed in respect of the original problem you raised.

What else do you want?

For you to realise you're still pinning your hopes on him changing his behaviour rather than you changing your outlook.

Horses7 · 03/11/2025 14:40

Flipping Nora, save your therapy money - most women would give their right arm to be married to your husband. Sometimes life is so nice we pick and pick to find things we’re not happy about. Sack your therapist, live your life and STOP OVERTHINKING EVERYTHING!!

KingJanie · 03/11/2025 14:41

AquaForce · 03/11/2025 12:14

This is the BPD OP.

You love how your husband used to make you feel. That's not the same as loving him. His behaviour while you were dating, silenced the BPD noise. You were temporarily relieved from it and it felt good.

You want to recreate the situations where his actions soothe your emotional dysregulation. Whether you realise it or not, you're looking at your DH as a therapy tool. He doesn't 'work' as well as he used to and so you are wondering if you should leave him.

It would be virtually impossible to find someone who can be a shield from your own mind 100% of the time. BPD is so destructive and robs people of normal everyday peace.

This is a great post.

Your husband is not a therapy tool to soothe you he is a peron in his own right with his own needs, past, preferences and personality.

You seem to be so focused on ensuring that all your needs are met as if this is somehow a right you have, instead of recognising that a relationship is with another complex human who will love you and try their best but cannot be responsible for all your needs.
It's emotionally abusive to demand they should be, constantly measure them and tell them they failing.

Your DH was very insightful when he said he didn't know if he had it in him to meet your needs. He can't because he is human and not a therapy tool.

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 14:43

KingJanie · 03/11/2025 14:41

This is a great post.

Your husband is not a therapy tool to soothe you he is a peron in his own right with his own needs, past, preferences and personality.

You seem to be so focused on ensuring that all your needs are met as if this is somehow a right you have, instead of recognising that a relationship is with another complex human who will love you and try their best but cannot be responsible for all your needs.
It's emotionally abusive to demand they should be, constantly measure them and tell them they failing.

Your DH was very insightful when he said he didn't know if he had it in him to meet your needs. He can't because he is human and not a therapy tool.

Bang on

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 14:43

Horses7 · 03/11/2025 14:40

Flipping Nora, save your therapy money - most women would give their right arm to be married to your husband. Sometimes life is so nice we pick and pick to find things we’re not happy about. Sack your therapist, live your life and STOP OVERTHINKING EVERYTHING!!

Self sabotage is happening here I think. Hopefully her therapist might be clued up enough to delve in to that.

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 03/11/2025 14:46

So he doesn't hit you, he doesn't emotionally abuse you, he's very loving, supports you, the one thing he's crap at is organising a date.

Bloody Nora I'd jump to have that and would happily organise everything date if he was perfect in every other way.

moderate · 03/11/2025 14:47

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:20

I never said once I want paragraphs. I gave an example of how we was able to express words beforehand to make a point that he CAN express himself.

OP: "Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me."

PP: "You're still wanting paragraphs of why he loves you or whatever."

OP: "I never said once I want paragraphs."

Your poor, poor husband.

Everleigh13 · 03/11/2025 14:48

You can’t expect somebody to meet all of your emotional needs or to basically say exactly what you need them to say to feel secure and reassured all the time. It is probably never going to be enough unless you find some contentment inside yourself.

VIOLETPUGH · 03/11/2025 14:51

talk about needy !!

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

moderate · 03/11/2025 14:47

OP: "Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me."

PP: "You're still wanting paragraphs of why he loves you or whatever."

OP: "I never said once I want paragraphs."

Your poor, poor husband.

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

OP posts:
FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 14:55

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

He's probably worn down and completely exhausted from being your emotional crutch as well as funding your existence and despite all this being threatened with divorce.

Would love to hear this from DH or his family's POV. I would be telling my brother to run a mile and by no means get her pregnant (until she's had successful treatment for her issues in any event)

moderate · 03/11/2025 14:56

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

I fully understand the distinction you're attempting to draw here. Hence my "Your poor, poor husband".

BeardOToots · 03/11/2025 15:01

Btw, all this ‘love languages’ stuff is made up bollocks.

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 15:04

BeardOToots · 03/11/2025 15:01

Btw, all this ‘love languages’ stuff is made up bollocks.

It's a slightly pretentious and psychobabbly way of noting that people show love in different ways, so it's possible for a person to think they're expressing it but the other isn't feeling it.

Lilactimes · 03/11/2025 15:06

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 14:55

He's probably worn down and completely exhausted from being your emotional crutch as well as funding your existence and despite all this being threatened with divorce.

Would love to hear this from DH or his family's POV. I would be telling my brother to run a mile and by no means get her pregnant (until she's had successful treatment for her issues in any event)

Yes I’m afraid I would be warning my brother off from you too @ldnelegantelephant

what do you do to show him you love him?

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 15:07

Lilactimes · 03/11/2025 15:06

Yes I’m afraid I would be warning my brother off from you too @ldnelegantelephant

what do you do to show him you love him?

I already answered this question. Why bother commenting if you have not read my responses?

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 15:08

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

No one can keep up that kind of ‘wooing’. I would hate it if I felt I had to keep up the same level of declarations that happen in the beginning. It’s not love notes everywhere or toxic neglect, there’s the middle ground of that comfortable, safe feeling of knowing you are loved in a mature and emotionally intelligent way, not by counting how many written declarations you get. Poor man probably has writer’s block, or else he can copy a ChatGPT declaration for you if they mean that much to you.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 15:09

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

Well yes, my DH used to do this when we were dating too. He also used to regularly surprise me with flowers and lovely cards telling me how lucky he was to have found me and how he couldn't wait to spend our lives together.

He still thinks this way (I hope!) - as do I - but difference is we are now married and have the mundanity of day to day life to contend with. So massive paragraphs about how much we love each other tend to take a backseat to texts about what we're having for tea, have you remembered to put the bin out, what time is the football match tomorrow etc etc.

Yes your husband obviously is capable of expressing himself through words but he made more of an effort in the beginning as we all do!!! You need to stop comparing how he is now to how he was when you were dating. I don't dress up for my DH in sexy underwear every night anymore either but we are both mature and comfortable enough to realise that these things are not realistic in a long term marriage or relationship!

BeardOToots · 03/11/2025 15:12

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 15:04

It's a slightly pretentious and psychobabbly way of noting that people show love in different ways, so it's possible for a person to think they're expressing it but the other isn't feeling it.

Unfortunately my love language is £1,000 in non sequential notes in a brown envelope. It’s tough.

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 15:13

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 12:24

I cook him his favourite foods, pack him lunch for work and don't even pack lunch for myself, I constantly vocalise my love for him, I leave him notes, I give physical affection as I know that is what he likes even though I am generally not someone who does physical affection, etc.

I do love my husband. To suggest otherwise just because I asked for advice is crazy.

Well that’s simply not enough OP. You can and should do more.

Flamingos89 · 03/11/2025 15:13

You are the definition of high maintenance 😂

He sounds brill! Cut him some slack

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 15:15

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 15:13

Well that’s simply not enough OP. You can and should do more.

Lol right. I make my DH his lunch and shag him too. I also pay the mortgage and don't threaten to divorce him because I want poetry😂

Targellll · 03/11/2025 15:17

Do you like your husband as a person? There is no mention of that, only that he’s a good provider and used to write you nice notes and things.

You have only really mentioned the nice things he says to you to you, about you, and now it seems you’re not getting enough of the adulation or “love language” now.

Honestly, I find this a strange thread. But, horses for courses, everyone has different relationships….