New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

Having watched it, the only allegation is that Andrew might be bi-sexual and may have interacted with Ladyboys in Thailand, nothing about Epstein trafficking boys to him, can you give a time link on the video?

Very interesting that Maxwell may be throwing Andrew under the bus and discrediting him to protect Trump from allegations from Andrew in order to further her attempts to get a more comfortable life in prison or early release.

Jeez, give your head a wobble

This sort of thing runs in the family, Google Mountbatten..

It was always obvious that Andrew was a sex-pervert. He was known as "randy Andy back when I was a kid in the 80s, and maybe before that.

Your experience sounds absolutely horrific, and I'm so sorry you went through that. 💐

Perhaps I didn't put it very well, but I meant that journalists shouldn't be allowed to fling around accusations like that without having any evidence. They're all hungry for eyeballs, and I think it's wrong that people can lose everything by being tried in the court of public opinion. I'm just sick of lurid allegations being bandied about by the media - journalists should not be allowed to just say whatever they like. They have so much power. Remember when Joanna Yeates was murdered by her neighbour and the papers accused the landlord, just because he was slightly funny-looking? It ruined his life! And just this week we had an accusation that Prince William had threatened his cousins with consequences if they didn't get their dad to vacate Royal Lodge. The media should have at least SOMETHING to back up their accusations, or put a sock in it. I feel as if we are all manipulated in order to get precious clicks.

Not to mention that he’d given her over £2m in loans and said that he was fed up with her scrounging for more money.

More like he was bumped off by Mossad

Why? Why should I give my head a wobble? Because I expect the media to provide some evidence if they are going to repeat serious allegations? Come on. You can't think that such a thing is fair. Or are you OK with trial by public opinion?

Apparently, you can't ask a rational question like that. 🙄

My respect for the late Queen has taken a nose-dive. She was totally unable to wrangle her family. She should have completely removed all titles from both Andrew and the Sussexes.

Is this a serious question? Why not think through why others might not want to come forward. And consider what happened to VG. Also consider the account of first woman to ever contact the police over Epstein’s behaviour, Maria Farmer.

If you read the Miami Herald’s first investigations into Epstein, or you watch early documentaries about him with witnesses as to what went on in his houses in Florida and New York and his private island - orgies were the norm that environment. It’s far more likely that Andrew participated than he did not given how much time he spent with him.

If you followed the new stories far far more names have come out, but a lot of them are very rich powerful men in America who are still powerful and they have the power to shut the story down. Trump is one. Clinton is another.

Re other girls, I’ll just leave this here
https://timesca.com/kazakh-model-committed-suicide-two-years-after-visiting-jeffrey-epsteins-notorious-island/

The current Israeli Prime Minister has ordered an investigation into the financial dealings former Israeli PM Ehud Barak had with Epstein.

there is no reason both can't be true

Of course it's a serious question. I am not going to let myself be manipulated by journalists flinging muck around because they're desperate for eyeballs. If they're going to repeat these things, there needs to be SOME back-up, like a journo saying that their source is watertight because they have spoken to one of the other girls, or some such.

I do not believe in trial by public opinion. VG had accused Andrew, she had a high-profile team of lawyers, she was in for a big pay-out, and any other victims of his would have had that community, protection, and potentially compensation. Their testimony would have helped bring him much lower than VG was able to do in his lifetime. There are MANY good reasons to wonder why no one else ever came forward since it was the perfect time to do so. It's the rational, logical response. So where were they?

Am I the only one that thinks that Charles’s actions are because his hand has been forced? Too little too late, I hope more comes out and shows he RF for what they are.

Additionally we have no idea what E&B think, why would we? However for all we know they may think him sleeping with a 17 nearly 18 year old ‘friend’ of Epstein is fine, he was a single man. They may be the type of women who think that it’s something men do and you just turn a blind eye. I think Andrew still thinks he did nothing wrong sleeping with her. These people have no idea, they are entitled, self serving disgusting individuals.

Epstein originally had a plea deal which meant that no one associated with this would/could be held to account. VG and 23 other girls went to court to get this over turned saying it was a violation of their rights as trafficked girls to bring their abusers to account. I don’t know the outcome as I haven’t got that far in the book yet!! She also speaks about a number of other (named girls) who also brought cases against Epstein but were paid off with NDA’s. So yes, lots of girls coming forward, but also lots not - because they know the system is against them succeeding in holding their abuses to account?

I do think your point holds when considering how a young girl holding her birthday party at Pizza hut Woking would have no recollection of inviting a princess, nor her father, at that time still a Prince and a Falkland’s hero, being there…. let alone any photos.

Is it "credible and true" like the Carl Beech investigation? 😉

This is why he was recently stripped of his title etc. They knew this was coming.

It would be a good idea for AMW's daughters to relinquish their titles and live as private citizens to show support and solidarity with victims of exploitation and abuse.

I’m still stuck on the bit about Weinstein being at Beatrice 18th birthday. Why was a man who isn’t close family nor in her peer group at that party? I guess this is before me too but it’s just so gross - I can’t imagine my teens wanting vague family friends who are leer adults at their teen parties? It’s just so weird even without the other grim info. I can only imagine that types motivation for even accepting that invitation .

The late Queen, her husband, and all the royals knew what was going on and they protected Andrew and each other from bad press. £12 million was thrown at VG to try and close it down.

Lord Mountbatten, mentor to Charles etc, was accused of grooming and coercing young navel cadets, years ago. Nothing was ever done.

It hasn’t worked this time, throwing money around, so now they are into damage limitation.

None of them come out of this looking good. 🤷‍♀️

Beatrice may well believe in her father’s innocence. It’s not for us to judge how she negotiates a difficult period in her life. Plus we don’t know what’s been said between them behind closed doors

No, no, I'm not denying there were other girls. There were loads, and we know that! I'm talking about VG's assertion that Andrew, specifically, slept with lots of other trafficked girls in addition to VG. If this is true, I hope we can see some journalistic proof. Doesn't have to be the victims revealing themselves to the public or anything, but journalists should be able to state that they have watertight sources, have interviewed a witness who confirms VG's story but wants to remain anonymous, or suchlike. There NEEDS to be some journalistic responsibility for repeating serious accusations.