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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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Kalpitiya · 04/11/2025 15:59

Pepperlee · 04/11/2025 15:51

Why do you think it's a diversion?

I don’t think that the AMW news is a diversion from someone else - the PP does. I think that there is relevant new content that has just been released that puts the spotlight on AMW.

Edwinstarrihavefaithinyou · 04/11/2025 16:04

Needspaceforlego · 04/11/2025 14:49

And if Andrew lost his virginity at 11 as claimed in latest book. Was he also a victim?

Most definitely if an adult had sex with him.
But I was speaking about Mountbatten.

LizzieW1969 · 04/11/2025 16:12

Kalpitiya · 04/11/2025 15:59

I don’t think that the AMW news is a diversion from someone else - the PP does. I think that there is relevant new content that has just been released that puts the spotlight on AMW.

I think both are true. There is more to come out for Andrew, but it’s convenient for the other perpetrators that the spotlight is on him and not on them. It’s obvious that he wasn’t the only perpetrator other than Epstein and Maxwell, after all, isn’t it?

Pepperlee · 04/11/2025 16:17

Kalpitiya · 04/11/2025 15:59

I don’t think that the AMW news is a diversion from someone else - the PP does. I think that there is relevant new content that has just been released that puts the spotlight on AMW.

You said "not that diversionary trope". There are more perpetrators involved in this scandal than Andrew but so far we've heard nothing concrete.

LizzieW1969 · 04/11/2025 16:20

Pepperlee · 04/11/2025 16:17

You said "not that diversionary trope". There are more perpetrators involved in this scandal than Andrew but so far we've heard nothing concrete.

Exactly. One of the times when Andrew is accused of raping VG was apparently an orgy. Who were the other men involved in this orgy?

LizzieW1969 · 04/11/2025 16:22

And no one is excusing his behaviour, he’s clearly a despicable human being. But you surely don’t think he was the only one? Why do you think no one else is being accused?

YankSplaining · 04/11/2025 16:24

MyLittleCatMan · 03/11/2025 21:11

they could have called him Andrew Windsor. They have put the Mountbatten name on him. Lord Mountbatten - a known, prolific child abuser of young boys.

The late Queen declared back in 1960 that Mountbatten-Windsor is her family’s surname if/when they need to have one. It’s the surname from Philip’s mother’s family that he started using in 1947, not just the name of his uncle.

YankSplaining · 04/11/2025 16:30

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:03

I don't know, people who have committed very serious crimes are known for killing themselves after. It is odd about the CCTV though, if that's true and not another unsubstantiated rumour.

Edited

I think Epstein killed himself because he knew there was no good ending to the story of the rest of his life. I wouldn’t be surprised if he told guards that he’d arrange for money to be transferred to their bank accounts if they “looked the other way.”

diddl · 04/11/2025 16:48

I can't help thinking that JE thought that he would somehow get out/away with it.

He had done previously hadn't he?

TheLocust · 04/11/2025 18:09

diddl · 04/11/2025 16:48

I can't help thinking that JE thought that he would somehow get out/away with it.

He had done previously hadn't he?

Yep. He was a supremely arrogant man with huge resources at his fingertips and a whole load of dirt of other powerful men. I think he believed he'd get a slap on the hand, like he did last time, do a couple of years in a cushy low security prison and then get released. Hardly anyone believes it was suicide.

ThePoshUns · 04/11/2025 19:39

No way it was suicide. It was a complete set up. If he was alive he’d have negotiated an open prison at least by now.

APTPT · 04/11/2025 19:51

He'd have received a full pardon from the White House and probably be giving Trump tacky decorating tips for his ballroom

BeeWitchy · 04/11/2025 19:53

Needspaceforlego · 04/11/2025 14:51

Someone somewhere is working hard to keep Andrew in the spotlight and the spotlight away from others.

Or at least thats how it seems to me. Something somewhere else is being covered up.

i agree - to an extent. But Andrew Lownie’s book ‘entitled’, Virginia Guffre’s book ‘Nobody’s girl’, and the years long investigative reporting into the financial dealings of Andrew have intersected and Andrew is in the spotlight because of that too, as he should be.

Kalpitiya · 04/11/2025 19:58

ThePoshUns · 04/11/2025 19:39

No way it was suicide. It was a complete set up. If he was alive he’d have negotiated an open prison at least by now.

Agree. I suspect that such manipulative, deluded and grandiose characters ever feel remorse or despair to take their own lives.

He had successfully spun every situation his whole life though blackmail to go his own way and I expect he believed he would wait this one out too. Maybe he threatened exposing the wrong person - or maybe the blow up around PA / AMW inadvertently shone too much light in his direction?

Also ironic that RW conspiracy theorists whipped up by Trump to hound out the pedophile elites found their own hero to be up to his neck in it.

BeeWitchy · 04/11/2025 20:03

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:03

I don't know, people who have committed very serious crimes are known for killing themselves after. It is odd about the CCTV though, if that's true and not another unsubstantiated rumour.

Edited

I am leaning on the side of ‘he didn’t kill himself’ because he’d already been convicted and done a prison term in 2008 -2009 for soliciting underage girls and still had royalty and billionaires willing to spend time with him in the following decade, So why kill himself before even going to court this time?

ThePoshUns · 04/11/2025 20:50

Exactly @BeeWitchy

ponyprincess · 04/11/2025 21:03

Dollymylove · 03/11/2025 10:03

Living in the area, its possible that Andrew and the girls were regular visitors to Pzza express. Maybe the staff couldn't pinpoint a particular day thay they visited

Andrew himself in the famous interview said it was unusual for him to go there and that's why he remembered it.

Thanksjohn · 04/11/2025 21:11

I would like to know who took the photo of AMW walking through NY central park with JE and why was the photo taken?

The same applies to the video of the dark haired woman leaving a building (possibly a palace) with a sneaky looking AMW saying goodbye at the door.
Makes me wonder if he was being set up, or whether it was an insurance policy?

user1484264563 · 04/11/2025 21:11

BadgernTheGarden · 03/11/2025 08:34

Having watched it, the only allegation is that Andrew might be bi-sexual and may have interacted with Ladyboys in Thailand, nothing about Epstein trafficking boys to him, can you give a time link on the video?

Very interesting that Maxwell may be throwing Andrew under the bus and discrediting him to protect Trump from allegations from Andrew in order to further her attempts to get a more comfortable life in prison or early release.

Steady on, your post is bordering on reasonable and considered, the mood here is more of ludicrous, libelous speculation and ridiculous third hand rumour upon rumour.

Bollihobs · 04/11/2025 21:14

NetZeroZealot · 04/11/2025 07:36

He didn’t lie about it & ended the friendship when it was clear what sort of person Epstein was. It’s not the same thing at all.

Even No.10 have concluded he was "economical with the truth" when asked about the relationship and Emails from 2008, (made public in September 2025) showed Mandelson sent supportive messages to Epstein after he was charged with soliciting prostitution from a minor. In one email, he told Epstein to "fight for early release" and in another, "Your friends stay with you and love you". Nice.

user1484264563 · 04/11/2025 21:17

Horsie · 03/11/2025 22:05

I just hope that Beatrice’s step son was never alone with this evil and hideous man.

I can't keep up with everything that's coming out...is there a suggestion that he's dangerous around 8-year-olds/young children?

None whatsoever, the op is a libellous fantasist whose already been called out on the claim that males were also trafficked to the parties.

Postcardsender · 04/11/2025 23:15

Thanksjohn · 04/11/2025 21:11

I would like to know who took the photo of AMW walking through NY central park with JE and why was the photo taken?

The same applies to the video of the dark haired woman leaving a building (possibly a palace) with a sneaky looking AMW saying goodbye at the door.
Makes me wonder if he was being set up, or whether it was an insurance policy?

That’s easy - it was the News of the World. They’d had a tip that AMW was in NYC and staked out Epstein’s house.

Postcardsender · 04/11/2025 23:30

BeeWitchy · 04/11/2025 19:53

i agree - to an extent. But Andrew Lownie’s book ‘entitled’, Virginia Guffre’s book ‘Nobody’s girl’, and the years long investigative reporting into the financial dealings of Andrew have intersected and Andrew is in the spotlight because of that too, as he should be.

“Cui bono” - who wins from the world going after Andrew.

Two key groups did and still do:

  1. the British tabloids. None of them cared which US governor or former senator or billionaires was involved, but Andrew for them was paydirt. Virginia Giuffre describes how she was tracked down in Australia by the MoS, and that their journalist was only interested in Andrew. The NotW similarly only staked out Epstein’s house when they knew Andrew was in town.

  2. The others who were involved - obviously.

BeanQuisine · 05/11/2025 00:27

BeeWitchy · 04/11/2025 20:03

I am leaning on the side of ‘he didn’t kill himself’ because he’d already been convicted and done a prison term in 2008 -2009 for soliciting underage girls and still had royalty and billionaires willing to spend time with him in the following decade, So why kill himself before even going to court this time?

Edited

You've just said it yourself: he was found guilty last time, and therefore would be in for a more crushing sentence this time.

Those who think he was murdered "because of what he knew" don't ask themselves: what about what the supposed murderers now know? They think rich and powerful men are scared of Epstein but happy to place their future in the hands of random paid killers who could blab at any time.

lifeonmars100 · 05/11/2025 01:18

APTPT · 04/11/2025 19:51

He'd have received a full pardon from the White House and probably be giving Trump tacky decorating tips for his ballroom

Job sharing with P Diddy

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