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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:33

MaccyDeeeFavs · 03/11/2025 15:38

“shared by most”?

'Most' is meaningless without a defined population. Most of whom?
Most according to what data? Most compared to what baseline?

I’m concerned that some posts here read more like loyal York fan messaging or a very poor attempt at PR. If the latter perhaps it’s time to consider a more professional agency.

Oh come on!

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:34

APTPT · 03/11/2025 17:02

What am I looking for, Philip's squeeze? The question would be, which one? He was a well-known wencher and frequenter of brothels. But yes, point taken- they think they can stop people talking about their licentiousness, frauds, cons, affairs... but in reality, they can't. It's always been an open secret how foul they are.

I think that's complete rubbish.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:35

ShenandoahRiver · 03/11/2025 16:39

Penny Knatchbull was a long term friend of Philip.

Yes, and just a friend, and the Queen was included in the friendship. She never lived with Philip. More baseless mucky rumours. It's amazing how credulous people are.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:37

MaccyDeeeFavs · 03/11/2025 15:30

It makes no sense as I am not talking about punishing 😊

It amounts to the same thing - the daughters giving up their titles because of something that someone else has done. It would be totally unjust.

Sarover · 03/11/2025 17:37

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:26

Susan Barrantes. Mother of SF

That was mentioned in Lownie’s book. For some reason her name doesn’t trigger MN. Presumably because she is no longer with us.

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:41

Sarover · 03/11/2025 17:37

That was mentioned in Lownie’s book. For some reason her name doesn’t trigger MN. Presumably because she is no longer with us.

Just wondered if it would be deleted.

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:42

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:35

Yes, and just a friend, and the Queen was included in the friendship. She never lived with Philip. More baseless mucky rumours. It's amazing how credulous people are.

Oh the irony , you have no clue yourself. Unless. You’re the ghost of Royals past

waitamo · 03/11/2025 17:43

The male orgasm must be something very powerful to go to such lengths to have sex.

No wonder women are always on high alert around them. Given half a chance that they won't be caught I think the vast vast majority of men would go for it just like the Epstein gang.

Can someone explain the male obsession of sex with any available woman to me? I don't believe the same draw applies to women, well it doesn't to me!

Maybe the old saying is true, women have sex to be loved, men pretend to love to have sex. Or something.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:47

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:42

Oh the irony , you have no clue yourself. Unless. You’re the ghost of Royals past

What proof do you have that it was more than just a friendship? It's just trashy rumours.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:52

waitamo · 03/11/2025 17:43

The male orgasm must be something very powerful to go to such lengths to have sex.

No wonder women are always on high alert around them. Given half a chance that they won't be caught I think the vast vast majority of men would go for it just like the Epstein gang.

Can someone explain the male obsession of sex with any available woman to me? I don't believe the same draw applies to women, well it doesn't to me!

Maybe the old saying is true, women have sex to be loved, men pretend to love to have sex. Or something.

You know, I've thought about this, and presumably intercourse must feel better to men than it does to women - not that that's ANY excuse! I suppose it must be like having a huge clitoris stimulated on all sides.

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:55

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:47

What proof do you have that it was more than just a friendship? It's just trashy rumours.

Do you not understand that the Royal family are central and in fact are the
very epicenter of the establishment in the UK.

They have been protected by the genuflecting establishment media for decades. And still the stories leak out .

The Royal family are a self serving overprivileged anachronism. You are coming across as completely delusional. HTH

AnareticDegree · 03/11/2025 17:55

Thread now triggering unbearable visuals of he who cannot sweat 🤮

APTPT · 03/11/2025 17:55

Most men in my experience are not as inclined to depravity and debauchery as the Saxe-Coburgs.

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 17:56

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:52

You know, I've thought about this, and presumably intercourse must feel better to men than it does to women - not that that's ANY excuse! I suppose it must be like having a huge clitoris stimulated on all sides.

Actually, and admittedly I cannot prove this, but I really think that when sex is really good, women enjoy it more than men. But female sexuality is more complicated. However, when it hits right, it's beyond sublime.

It doesn't seem to drive us in the same way, though.

swimlyn · 03/11/2025 17:57

Horsie · 03/11/2025 09:09

That's true, but she could have ordered Charles and William and the staff to do all the necessities.

I wonder how Prince Philip would have reacted to all this if he'd been alive and it had all happened when he was a younger man. He always struck me as basically decent and upstanding. Like the Queen. God only knows how they managed to have a son like Andrew - none of his siblings are sexual weirdos like him, either!

Crikey.

How naÏve can you get?

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:58

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:55

Do you not understand that the Royal family are central and in fact are the
very epicenter of the establishment in the UK.

They have been protected by the genuflecting establishment media for decades. And still the stories leak out .

The Royal family are a self serving overprivileged anachronism. You are coming across as completely delusional. HTH

That's a very long way of admitting that you have no proof and that there's no evidence.

I disagree with the press putting about baseless, lurid rumours that are then repeated ad nauseam by credulous idiots who believe everything that's put in front of them without applying any critical thinking at all. HTH.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 17:58

Hotflushesandchilblains · 03/11/2025 16:45

Unless they are involved in shady financials too - his sex offending is one (awful) thing which in no way should reflect on his children. But there are a lot of questions about financial misconduct which need to be looked into and they are all implicated.

I still have sympathy for them even if he’s embroiled them in financial misdoings.
He has a position of supreme power. I imagine it would be very difficult to not be coerced by him.

AnareticDegree · 03/11/2025 18:01

OneBadKitty · 03/11/2025 17:22

I'm still confused as to what people actually believe Andrew can be gaoled for. He didn't traffic the girls or boys, Epstein did.

Lying, wasting police time, dubious activities with despotic foreign dictators, gun running, facilitating weapons deals and laundering cash from convicted fraudsters.

Off the top of my head, I'm sure others can add to the list.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 03/11/2025 18:04

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 17:58

I still have sympathy for them even if he’s embroiled them in financial misdoings.
He has a position of supreme power. I imagine it would be very difficult to not be coerced by him.

Yes, this is a fair point. But they are also both adults now, who have autonomy and who benefit from tax payers money. To be fair, I think there are a lot of RF members whose financials are 'off' - its just the Andrew is so repulsive it is shining a light on all of it.

AnareticDegree · 03/11/2025 18:07

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:58

That's a very long way of admitting that you have no proof and that there's no evidence.

I disagree with the press putting about baseless, lurid rumours that are then repeated ad nauseam by credulous idiots who believe everything that's put in front of them without applying any critical thinking at all. HTH.

Edited

But, Horsie, that's exactly what you are doing. I'm sure you aren't one but you sound like a credulous idiot believing the fairytale then sticking their hands over their ears refusing to listen when you're told the truth.

All the evidence of the inbred shit show that is the Windsor family has been conveniently collated in a fab little book by Norman Baker, called And what do you do? Not a pleasant read for royalists.

tommyhoundmum · 03/11/2025 18:17

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

Do you believe evrything you see on screen?

KeepAwayFromChildren · 03/11/2025 18:22

Lampzade · 03/11/2025 05:11

There is definitely more to come out which I suspect is the reason that Andrew has had his title removed .

100%. Chas has shifted him sideways while the allegations are relatively minor I suspect.

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 18:22

Horsie · 03/11/2025 17:58

That's a very long way of admitting that you have no proof and that there's no evidence.

I disagree with the press putting about baseless, lurid rumours that are then repeated ad nauseam by credulous idiots who believe everything that's put in front of them without applying any critical thinking at all. HTH.

Edited

As I said. Delusional 🤷‍♀️

Catullus5 · 03/11/2025 18:25

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 17:56

Actually, and admittedly I cannot prove this, but I really think that when sex is really good, women enjoy it more than men. But female sexuality is more complicated. However, when it hits right, it's beyond sublime.

It doesn't seem to drive us in the same way, though.

I understand that the biology of it is that men's desire for sex is more inherent while women's is responsive. Ie men don't need as much to get going and don't need as much emotional closeness.

I am sure it's been mentioned on this enormous thread but Lownie's book claims that AMW was sexually abused before he was a teen and was subjected to sexual abuse on a number of occasions while a teen and perhaps that's why he went sex mad. There is mention of a father of a friend of his hiring them both sex workers while AMW and friend were in their early teens. Disgusting. And this was in a time when sexual morals were harsh compared to now. There's something very strange about that set of society.

SALaw · 03/11/2025 18:27

AnareticDegree · 03/11/2025 15:24

It was Emily Maitlis we can thank for that. The same Emily Maitlis who hasn't exactly been treated well by the BBC and has suggested that its broadcasting policy is influenced by the Conservative Party.

That’s a weird take. She was the interviewer. It was the BBC (via their staff, including Emily Matliss) that made and broadcast the interview.