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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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Minnie798 · 03/11/2025 16:52

Horsie · 03/11/2025 15:22

The view that the two daughters should not be punished in any way because of what their dad did is a view shared by most, including the king. It's a logical, rational view enshrined in the phrase about not punishing offspring for the "sins of the fathers." I'm not sure why you think I make little sense - the viewpoint is very clear to most - or what your issue with the word punishment is. Maybe it's you that should work on your reading comprehension!

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Honestly I agree. I would not be impressed by them relinquishing their 'titles' or whatever in response to a man's alleged actions. It would be disappointing tbh.

ginasevern · 03/11/2025 16:55

Minnie798 · 03/11/2025 16:52

Honestly I agree. I would not be impressed by them relinquishing their 'titles' or whatever in response to a man's alleged actions. It would be disappointing tbh.

I think they'll scrape by.

Sarover · 03/11/2025 16:56

She’s connected to Phil the Greek so I apologise for derailing a thread about AMW. But somebody upthread mentioned that the media would have mentioned if PP had been a philanderer. My point was that the media make oblique references to the woman constantly, with photos. And they are probably prevented from telling the actual truth by the same forces that are preventing us from writing her name on MN. To state the obvious, The RF are extremely powerful. Just because something hasn’t been reported yet doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Name5 · 03/11/2025 16:58

If Prince Philip was a dirty duck the late Queen could hardly have instigated a divorce.

AMW is accused of far worse things.

Sarover · 03/11/2025 17:01

Agree totally that AMW is guilty of far worse than his father. But the fact that you can’t write PP’s companion’s name in MN, even years after his death, shows you that the RF are not exactly transparent.

APTPT · 03/11/2025 17:02

What am I looking for, Philip's squeeze? The question would be, which one? He was a well-known wencher and frequenter of brothels. But yes, point taken- they think they can stop people talking about their licentiousness, frauds, cons, affairs... but in reality, they can't. It's always been an open secret how foul they are.

Name5 · 03/11/2025 17:08

Perhaps there is an injunction @Sarover to stop the lady friend of prince Philip being mentioned.
Not all court outcomes are in the public domain. If there was a hearing to prevent defamation of the lady by mumsnet or other media then they can't publish.
The lady's family have a tragic history.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 03/11/2025 17:08

I’m not convinced the royal family can survive this. I think Charles has been tainted by associating and by not acting early enough. What did he know about Andrew and Epstein? And if he thinks Andrew is guilty, why isn’t Andrew in jail?

ohdelay · 03/11/2025 17:09

The name is now showing up in previous posts. Still disturbing and weird to blacklist initially

Verite1 · 03/11/2025 17:09

The name in the posts is now coming up. Have they been unhidden. How very strange again.

Willyoujustbequiet · 03/11/2025 17:12

WinterBerry40 · 03/11/2025 09:03

For those saying their opinions of the late queen have changed , remember we are talking about a women who was in her late 90s and lived a life where men were privileged by status , money , and wives turning blind eyes if they dailled with titled ladies or even staff . She lived in a different world and a different time .
Even paedophiles have family visits in prisons .

I agree.

She was an elderly woman from a different era who devoted her entire life to service.

Why do his daughters get understanding (rightfully so) but not his mum? We have no idea what she was told behind closed doors by him or by the palace advisors.

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 17:12

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lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 17:14

OMG, I typed her name and like Candy Man the magic happened! how very odd, the friendship was dramatised in the Crown

AutumnLover1989 · 03/11/2025 17:15

Penelope knatchbull ?

AutumnLover1989 · 03/11/2025 17:15

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 17:14

OMG, I typed her name and like Candy Man the magic happened! how very odd, the friendship was dramatised in the Crown

Omg same. Gone.

OonaStubbs · 03/11/2025 17:17

This instant censorship is scary and should not be allowed.

ShenandoahRiver · 03/11/2025 17:18

@AutumnLover1989
i can see your post now with Penny Knatchbull’s name in it

Name5 · 03/11/2025 17:18

Disclaimer on the crown. Persons living or dead etc....
Also USA owned perhaps they're not bothered.

OneBadKitty · 03/11/2025 17:22

I'm still confused as to what people actually believe Andrew can be gaoled for. He didn't traffic the girls or boys, Epstein did.

AutumnLover1989 · 03/11/2025 17:22

ShenandoahRiver · 03/11/2025 17:18

@AutumnLover1989
i can see your post now with Penny Knatchbull’s name in it

Oh yes. How weird 😮

ThePoshUns · 03/11/2025 17:22

Rumpledandcrumpled · 03/11/2025 11:36

To be fair here the fact mandelson was there would say is indicative of boys being trafficked, I do not think it is Evidence Andrew had sex with boys. Not saying he didn’t, and if they were there at the same time, it meant he would have known, but I personally don’t see it as evidence andrew did that.

There’s a line in Lownie’s book about his visit to Thailand that as well as female prostitutes he was also visited by effeminate young men. Nothing else said but it does leave it open to interpretation.

ThePoshUns · 03/11/2025 17:22

Rumpledandcrumpled · 03/11/2025 11:36

To be fair here the fact mandelson was there would say is indicative of boys being trafficked, I do not think it is Evidence Andrew had sex with boys. Not saying he didn’t, and if they were there at the same time, it meant he would have known, but I personally don’t see it as evidence andrew did that.

There’s a line in Lownie’s book about his visit to Thailand that as well as female prostitutes he was also visited by effeminate young men. Nothing else said but it does leave it open to interpretation.

APTPT · 03/11/2025 17:22

Charles will survive this. He has shaken off other scandals (and the wife whose tampon he wished to be... while married to Diana).

Lapdog media.

Rotten family.

New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor
Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/11/2025 17:26

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 03/11/2025 17:08

I’m not convinced the royal family can survive this. I think Charles has been tainted by associating and by not acting early enough. What did he know about Andrew and Epstein? And if he thinks Andrew is guilty, why isn’t Andrew in jail?

I'm not sure even Charles could have his brother jailed because he "thinks" he's guilty, Bananaandmangosmoothie; for me it's likely to be more about not wanting to see the idea spreading

However never underestimate the family's tenacity in holding onto their positions.
Admittedly it didn't work for Andrew, but IMO that's likely to be because allowing him to carry on endangered the rest rather than any actual concern around what he'd done

Donttellempike · 03/11/2025 17:26

Susan Barrantes. Mother of SF