New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

But I am not talking about the justice system. I am talking about the media.

Watch this interview with VG's boyfriend:

Source: YouTube share.google/80PnfQ3XMbhiRRgJh

No, I still disagree. It's totally wrong to punish someone for what their parents did.

I honestly don't believe all the lurid rumours about Prince Philip. The press would have been on that in an instant.

https://eotp.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/2011-new-labours-tony-blair-fined-500-for-indecent-conduct-with-a-male-in-public-toilets/I thought everyone knew. I think a lot of information has been erased

Eugenie doesn't support him, they're not close at all and he's never even met her second child

They wouldn’t be punished as their titles wouldn’t be forcibly taken. They could relinquish them voluntarily, guided by their own conscience and moral stance so taking a stand against their parents' murky dealings, from which they’ve indirectly benefited socially and financially. In doing so, they get to appear righteous while cleansing the public image tarnished by their father’s legacy. What’s not to love? In terms of PR that's would be a good step. Once William become King, he may take away all these titles anyways, not as a punishment but to slim down the monarchy and improve accountability, a key aspect of good governance.

Upstairs...

Agree. It's a little sexist to think that things will be taken seriously now that young men are involved rather than women/girls.

ALL of them, though? The media should be able to corroborate the stories they put out, otherwise it's just muck-raking.

I hear you. I think there are a couple of reasons they are going after Andrew:

1. He is a british royal
2. He lied on TV in that awful interview.

Personally, I would like to see him banished to some squalid lodgings. I don't think he should be entitled to a security detail or any of the trappings of being a member of the royal family.

As for the rest of them, Trump especially, I hope that one day we will see him brought to justice. He is a vile man who seems to think that he is god.

I have just bought VG's book but haven't started reading it yet.

Oh you are embarrassingly naïve.

Maccy, I'm sure YOU wouldn't like to be punished for something your dad had done. What you propose is so unreasonable that I wonder if you are just envious that they are HRHs and princesses.

I'm also not at all sure that the daughters benefited from their parents' dodgy connections. They're royal princesses with trust funds from the late Queen and before that, the Queen Mother. What could Epstein possibly have offered them?

Maybe, or maybe I just don't believe every mucky rumour.

It was in an FBI report

My understanding is that she is suing the estate of the late Virginia Giuffre.

I hope you got some justice 😔.

I'm undecided on whether they should or not, but if B and E did relinquish their titles, would it make any difference to them? They aren't working royals and none of their cousins except William and Harry is titled as Prince or Princess.

How is it known the photo of VG and AWM was taken upstairs? Is it the shape of the arched doorway or did VG say it was upstairs? Prior to this thread I’ve never heard it referred to as upstairs in a small mews house

They absolutely would not.

Exactly.

The deference at the time was mind boggling.

I didn't know it is reported to be as low as £3m she was given. But that sounds a much more logical figure to me the £12m banded around always seemed wild.

I still think there is lots of stirring around Andrew to keep someone or some others out of the spotlight.
Who are those other men?

Stephen Ward? Stephen Ward who was wrongfully charged with living off immoral earnings? Who was hounded to death because he was gay and knew too much? That Stephen Ward? I should imagine many people knew him. It's not exactly a smoking gun, is it?

There is no evidence from reputable news sources, official records, or biographies to support this story. It's widely believed to be a hoax.

Regarding Epstein and all involved, I hope an investigation is able to clear up what's true from what's lurid rumour. And I hope more victims feel able to come forward to help with that.

Why do we care more if he abused boys than if he abused girls?