To flash at middle lane huggers?

[WhatMummyMakesSheEats]

it really angers me how many people don’t know how to drive on the motorway. Especially the M25.

Why are there so many people who just sit in the middle lane and don’t move over? I don’t want to undertake people. So if I’m being made to slow down by a middle lane hogger I’ll flash at them to move over. More often than not they will move to the outside lane, so they obviously know where they should be?!

I do want to add that I also hate people who weave and undertake but I think they are just aggressive drivers and also if no one hogged the middle lane they wouldn’t be able to!

That still sounds like you are a shit driver.

You should be looking ahead to see the slow moving traffic in the middle lane and then moving to the outer lane ahead of time to avoid getting stuck.

Are there any sections of the M25 with only two lanes ? No, I thought not.

Only me who thought you meant that you want to expose yourself ?

Can you let me know what’s wrong with taking your foot off the accelerator to slow down? Also what’s wrong with breaking down a hill?

Nothing wrong with with the system it arseholes who can’t use it and move out of middle lane

But what about times where there aren’t any HGVs etc? What excuse do people have then for staying in the middle lane? I have attached a picture I took a while back (as a passenger before anyone starts on that). I think I even started a thread about it at the time (under a different user name). This was the M25 one afternoon. EVERYONE is in lane 3 doing 50-60mph. For as far as I could see. Lanes 1 and 2 totally empty. It’s ridiculous. I would have to cross from lane 1 to lane 4 just to get round them all. And they’re all quite tightly packed in. So I’d need to squeeze (as in indicate and hope someone lets me in, not force my way in) between 2 cars, probably making someone have to brake in order to let me in (so they could maintain safe stopping distance) to get through them all to lane 4. Utterly ridiculous.

How strange, my car is over 20 years old too, yet has these magical accessories called wing mirrors which enable you to safely overtake a wagon then get back to Lane 1
It’s easy to tell who all the middle lane hoggers are on this thread. Embarrassing!

It’s called overtaking for a reason, it’s what you do on a motorway. If you drive like this ‘middle lane hogging’ then you are breaking the law under careless driving.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was saying that easing off the accelerator is preferable to flying up to the back of a other car and jamming on the brakes.
Re braking; of course breaking is fine but gently applying the brake before downshifting to control the descent is preferable to riding brakes downhill especially on longer hills..

See my photo a few posts above that I attached. M25 during the day. They aren’t just minding their own business going past slow lorries. And this isn’t just one inside lane empty, it’s two!!

I do drive in the left hand lane, and just overtake when I need to- whether that’s every , 2minutes, 3 minutes or 5 minutes. Overtaking is not that hard.

Agree. It is infuriating when the left two lanes are empty and people are driving at 55-60 in lane 3 and lane 4 is now congested with people trying to avoid undertaking them.

I get that weaving in and out of traffic undertaking is dangerous but I do think we need to rethink allowing incidental undertaking when someone is maintaining a constant speed in the driving lane since no one is using the system properly anyway.

Friendly flashing? i've heard it all now! As a driver, you have to accept everyone is at different levels, in different machines.Just chill the fuck out and stop driving aggressively.

I feel your pain as there are plenty of Middle Lane Muppets on the M40 too.

Does my head in having to overtake from lane 1, then 2, then 3, back to 2 and 1, only to see them in my rear view mirror still planted in the middle lane. Usually on their phone…

Are you in a rush?

Why is it that driving on the m25 is significantly worse than on any other motorway? Absolutely nobody seems to know what to do.

Perhaps you should stop raging and learn the Highway Code.

it is perfectly legal and normal to drive faster on the inside lane if the traffic in the next lane is going slow.

please tell me you don’t slow down on motorways purely because the lane next to you is congested. Please say you don’t. That would place you in a group of very very annoying people who don’t understand how roads work. Are you saying if the second lane stops for an accident you would just stop in your lane so as not to go past them?

this is not undertaking 🤦🏻‍♀️

• Undertaking is Discouraged:Deliberately overtaking on the left is strongly discouraged because it can be dangerous and other drivers do not expect it.
• Exception for Congested Traffic: In heavy traffic where adjacent lanes are moving at similar speeds, traffic in the left-hand lanes may sometimes move faster than traffic to the right. In these specific conditions, you may "pass" the traffic in the right lane, but you should stay in your current lane and not weave in and out.

No. The question is why is someone doing 60 and hogging the middle lane when they are not overtaking?

People should not drive slowly in the middle lane.
People should not flash their lights at drivers who annoy them.
Both these things are dangerous.
Just get in the outside lane and overtake, problem solved

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I just can't. So much terrible driving in evidence - I'm sure it's gotten worse post COVID. As well as lots of moronic middle lane hoggers loads more crazies weaving between cars or roaring right up behind you. More road rage too. If you're on a 4 lane motorway and someone is in the second lane and the inside lane is super busy, I wouldn't mind. But when people sit in the second lane doing 60 when the inside lane is empty- ARGH! I also flash them and sometimes even beep them, because you can drive past them and they look like they're in a trance, and I worry they might have a crash because they are so zoned out. It's not just dangerous middle lane hogging but so inefficient - often near me you have people doing 65 in the outside lane to overtake some middle lane dolt doing 60, with cars backing up behind just waiting to roar off at 70+. Then you end up with huge shock wave jams. All the people saying 'it's much more dangerous for me to overtake HGVs constantly - it really isn't. It really isn't. It's just more inconvenient. If there are really limited/tight gaps between them and you'd be weaving that's fine because you're overtaking. But it's when you're not overtaking people get annoyed.

Yeah this.

It’s dangerous and arseholish to drive up behind people and flash your lights at them. I see more poor driving from people tailgating and flashing lights (and they inevitably are going faster than the speed limit) than from those in the middle lane driving perfectly sensibly.

I voted YANBU but I think I’ve changed my mind reading your subsequent replies. You keep saying that your issue is having to slow down. You can’t expect to never have to slow down on a motorway. People who hog the middle lane are an annoyance but there are also people who use the middle lane to overtake traffic whose cars aren’t as fast as yours.

I hate middle lane hoggers. All that time, effort and money that went into creating a three lane road wasted thanks to these hard-of-thinking, lazy morons with their ludicrous excuses for their shitty driving. I wouldn't flash them myself but only because I assume they'd be utterly oblivious; if anybody else wants to that's fine by me though.

If they are in the middle lane and you want to overtake them then just go in the right hand lane.