To flash at middle lane huggers?

[WhatMummyMakesSheEats]

it really angers me how many people don’t know how to drive on the motorway. Especially the M25.

Why are there so many people who just sit in the middle lane and don’t move over? I don’t want to undertake people. So if I’m being made to slow down by a middle lane hogger I’ll flash at them to move over. More often than not they will move to the outside lane, so they obviously know where they should be?!

I do want to add that I also hate people who weave and undertake but I think they are just aggressive drivers and also if no one hogged the middle lane they wouldn’t be able to!

Blimey - this thread proves that the motorway should be part of the driving test. All this talk of slow lanes and target speeds!
It’s really very simple. Drive on the left unless overtaking.

I darent mention joining the motorway as we will have all manner of shit responses with made up rules.

I refuse to drive in lane 1 because of all the tired and distracted lorry drivers that are capable of crushing my car if they don’t notice a sudden traffic jam.
I drive fast enough In the middle lane anyway. If you don’t like middle lane hoggers because you want to break the speed limit then you are in the wrong.

Omg an actual middle lane hogger! Learn to drive! “Refuse to drive in lane 1” honestly you should not be driving on motorways.

So if you’re driving at 2am and the road is absolutely empty you’ll still drive in the middle lane? Let’s hope you get a fine soon.

Agree 1000% I never flash. If I need to over take them I’ll drop my speed go behind, round and overtake. Sometimes as I do that they move over anyway.

i agree on people having motorway lessons a new P drive who I made room for to enter the motorway decided to stop at the bottom of the entry slip way! I had no idea they’d do that and had to find my way into the middle
lane so they could pull in! Very dangerous.

Why not just move over to lane 2 if there’s traffic ahead?

Have all you irate bossy drivers got very important jobs that means you're always in a rush?

It's not about being in a rush. It's about having to do an unnecessary double lane overtake and return in order to be able to drive correctly because some chump is in lane 2 when they aren't overtaking.

You can paint it as impatience and aggression all you like bur MLHs are shit drivers and force other drivers to perform unnecessary maneuvers

I agree with you! As do half the ppl voting here so its obviously an agree to disagree scenario. Case closed.

So you sail along oblivious in the middle lane forcing competent drivers to do double lane overtaking to maintain the flow of traffic 🙄.

Even if you are not being flashed at be aware that everyone else hates you and thinks you are a shit driver.

1. If lane 1 is full of lorries and you are overtaking them in lane 2 then you are not a MLH and the situation is irrelevant to the discussion

2. Many of those voting will be voting on the specific question of the OP about flashing, not about the principle of being a MLH

To be fair the voting is about whether I am unreasonable to flash them, not about whether it’s right to sit in the middle lane. It’s not a matter of opinion whether you can just merrily coast along in the middle lane. it’s literally written in the Highway Code and you can be fined.

Also you are aware that lorries can drive in lane 2 yes? Do they become more alert and awake and less distracted once they pull into lane 2 from lane 1? Or is lane 2 quite magical in that you can’t get crushed in that one?

No-one is making you over take, dont blame others for your actions, the road is not just for you

No, you're right. You can dangerously undertake instead or slow down below the speed limit on a clear road and drive parallel for miles instead. Because some muppet can't be arsed driving appropriately. Yep, that's definitely a better scenario.

If it's a clear road, you can overtake. Not difficult.

Oh my God. Yes, you can. By crossing two lanes over and two lanes back. Which is perfectly doable but completely unnecessary if the MLH wasn't being a MLH. That's the point.

MLHs only exist on clear roads because if lane 1 isn't clear and they are actually overtaking in lane 2 then they are not a MLH.

Why are you obsessed with everyone being in a rush? We live in a world with a lot of things being “timed”. And there is limited time in a day. You cannot allow an extra 3 hours for a journey in order to accommodate someone who wants to be slow. Are you saying someone should leave for a 20 min school run drive 2 hours early in case they come across someone who wants to walk in the road instead of the pavement? They shouldn’t be there but what’s the rush right? Just accept it and chill out? That’s your point of view?

Say you get on a train to go to a concert that starts at 7pm. Train takes an hour. Should you leave at 2pm? Because the train driver might decide to nap for a couple of hours. Would you complain that your 5pm train is still in the station at 7pm? I mean what’s the rush right? Should have left earlier. Can’t complain about the train being late. All those annoying irate train passengers complaining about the train being late! Terrible!

What if your plane is delayed 24 hours? Would you expect compensation? Why? What’s the rush? You’re only going on holiday. Stop being ridiculous about being held up. Chill.

I work in a job where I see patients every 30 mins. So yes I need to be at work on time. Otherwise, strangely enough, people complain that I’m late! I should just tell them to be quiet and chill and ask them what the rush is. I leave plenty of time to get to work and I don’t need a motorway for long during the week so MLHs won’t hold me up long. But I do drive long distances at weekends a lot. So let’s say I’m driving 5 hours. That journey on a motorway stuck behind someone doing 50 when I could be doing 70 will add 2 hours on! Why should I leave an extra 2 hours for a journey ONLY because someone is driving in the wrong lane???? If they just moved over it wouldn’t be an issue at all!!

I don’t know I do a lot of dual carriageway driving and I feel like every time I move out to overtake I’ve got an Audi driving up behind me at 80 and sitting on my bumper as if I have no right to be there. And I’m not a hogger, I am legitimately overtaking, and I’m driving at 70-80. I can’t bear a genuine hogger but people are ridiculously impatient as well. Both those things are true.

Motorway driving is not a fun leisure activity for most normal people and we want to do it as fast as is legally and safely possible. We don’t want to have to spend more time doing it only to pander to inept numpties who can’t drive properly .

I think we know by now that you’re one of the bad drivers, you don’t have to keep labouring the point.

Right so not driving parallel for miles then like you suggested you had to. You just don't have to undertake people either and they won't be expecting it so it's dangerous. I'm not disputing they are driving badly. If you are undertaking on a clear road you are driving badly. Two bad drivers instead of one on the road, one of whom is irately smug which is a terrible combination for driving safely. Not doing your veins any favours either is it.

I use them as an example to my learning to drive teens of how NOT to drive …

Yes, you are right. It is possible to overtake by going from lane 1 to 3 and back to 1. I have never disputed that is possible. It is still entirely unnecessary and only happens because the MLH has caused an obstruction in lane 1 by driving really badly.

If you are happily in lane 1 and come across a MLH you have three options; undertake, double overtake 1-3-1 or drive parallel. None are ideal. None would be necessary if MLH wasn't being a MLH.

I'm deeply envious of all these clear motorways with a miraculously empty left hand lane that you're all coming across with such regularity.