To flash at middle lane huggers?

[WhatMummyMakesSheEats]

it really angers me how many people don’t know how to drive on the motorway. Especially the M25.

Why are there so many people who just sit in the middle lane and don’t move over? I don’t want to undertake people. So if I’m being made to slow down by a middle lane hogger I’ll flash at them to move over. More often than not they will move to the outside lane, so they obviously know where they should be?!

I do want to add that I also hate people who weave and undertake but I think they are just aggressive drivers and also if no one hogged the middle lane they wouldn’t be able to!

But we aren't talking about flashing while tailgating. I am talking about flashing twats in the middle lane as I sail past their rear moving from lane 1 to 3 in one move before coming back across their bows from 3 to 1.

Read the quoted post before. There are enough people who seem to think that driving at 50-60mph in the middle lane shouldn't be done full stop.

They seem to think everyone should be driving at 70mph (or above) or they shouldn't either be on the motorway and especially not in anything other than the 1st lane.

And they think flashing aggressively is ok.

It's not.

There are enough people who seem to think that driving at 50-60mph in the middle lane shouldn't be done full stop
They shouldn't be. Unless lane 1 is only moving at 50 because otherwise they can't be using lane 2 at that speed and actually overtaking.

If lane 1 is moving at 50 then it is congested and the usual rules about changing lanes are suspended. As a PP pointed out there are often signs telling you specifically to stay inane in those circumstances. But that's still irrelevant to the conversation as that doesn’t make them a MLH.

Do you mean the person who said:

Middle lane hoggers driving at less than 60mph are a pain in the backside if you are towing a trailer. You can’t use the outer lane to get round them.?

If so, they specifically talk about “middle lane hoggers”. Not middle lane overtakers. A middle lane overtaker will pull back into lane 1 when finished so the person quoted above can then get past. Middle lane hoggers will not do that. So that person behind with the trailer will never ever be able to get past them.

I read through the quote history and they said ‘middle lane hoggers going 60’. That’s the issue- not people who are overtaking. There are so many drivers who join the motorway, go straight to the middle and do not move until their exit. They’re the issue.

With such 'superior driving abilities, could you not just get yourself home without harassing other drivers?

Yes in this single snap shot things look crazy.

The middle lane is meant for overtaking only so we're all doing it wrong these days!

No we’re all not. Many of us still only use it for overtaking. If the left hand lane is going 58mph with the lorries and there’s a stream of traffic in that lane you can drive in the middle lane as long as you’re making progress. Once a gap appears on the left you move back over. That is how most people drive- it’s the ones who don’t do that who this thread is about

I remain in hope that they might cop on and realise they are behaving twattishly and stop being a MLH next time. It's worth a try.

Sometimes I can't get out of the middle lane because of people like you driving up my arse and flashing. I'm waiting for a safe gap to move.

I’m not sure about flashing but I do enjoy the passive aggressive two-lane overtake then moving back over to the inside lane right in front of them. Honestly, most people on motorways these days behave like mouth breathers. They’re utterly oblivious to their surroundings.

Even lorries are going faster than 50mph in the inside lane. Why would you drive slower in the middle lane than those on the inside?

What about the overtaking/fast lane hoggers?
I learnt to drive in Germany, and was told to put your inductor on to signal you are coming through 😉

I get annoyed when going along in the "second" lane on M25 and get tailgated and flashed for going at under 70mph when the left hand lane is actually the feeder lane for the M1or other major turn off so actually a different road.
Also happens on M6 when taking the third lane for the toll road or the turn off for Tunbridge Wells on the M25.
People have no patience

Tits? Or arse? Arse would be quite dangerous if you're driving, but tits I can see might be more doable.

Anyone who tailgates and flashes should have their license removed.

I’m with you, middle lane hogging motorway driving is very irritating. (I was following a person on the M25 once who decided on an almost empty motorway - it occasionally happens! - that lane 4 doing 60mph was the thing to do (daylight, dry and perfect conditions) 😡)

It depends what the point of the flashing is. Flashing and tailgating may just encourage the driver to be bloody minded and slow down in the middle lane. It also depends on how full the left hand lane is. Most people don’t change lanes just for 10 seconds. Weaving in and out of lanes when it is busy is more dangerous than slowly overtaking. I just overtake if 3 lanes. Other people’s poor driving is not my problem. If only 2 lanes and an empty left lane I may flash

I deliberately wouldn’t move if you flashed. I may even slow down. So RUDE!

Yes I’d be flashing to encourage them to move over if I had nowhere else to go due to the next lane being full with a car/cars overtaking me. I would not tailgate someone (so dangerous) and that isn’t part of my AIBU.

So if the motorway's nearly empty, you've got loads of space?

Why are you trying so hard to justify driving objectively wrong?

No. You just carry on in lane one at 70. This is not undertaking. Read the Highway Code. Undertaking is a specific act of changing into lane one to pass someone in lane two. You are simply driving at the speed limit down lane one.

it is not for you to artificially slow down. The others are simply in a congested lane.

are you telling me that when lane 2 or 3 stops due to a hold up you stop also even if there is nothing in front of you in lane one?

You're flashing them to alert them to their error? I don't see how that will let them know their error unless you're flashing a big sign that says MOVE OVER YOU IDIOT. Otherwise it could be about anything - that they have a handbag on the roof, that their wheel is about to fall off... Bad idea. Don't flash people unless you're warning them of a hazard, especially since so many headlights are blinding these days. You're more dangerous than they are.