To flash at middle lane huggers?

[WhatMummyMakesSheEats]

it really angers me how many people don’t know how to drive on the motorway. Especially the M25.

Why are there so many people who just sit in the middle lane and don’t move over? I don’t want to undertake people. So if I’m being made to slow down by a middle lane hogger I’ll flash at them to move over. More often than not they will move to the outside lane, so they obviously know where they should be?!

I do want to add that I also hate people who weave and undertake but I think they are just aggressive drivers and also if no one hogged the middle lane they wouldn’t be able to!

They deserve to be flashed. If you don’t want to be flashed don’t drive in the middle lane 🙄. If you can’t cope with being flashed you shouldn’t be on the roads.

I always try and look to see who’s doing it - there’s no pattern it’s all sorts young old male female

its not just about being in a rush. it makes driving more dangerous as you have to do multiple lange changed because of some idiot who doesn't know how to drive. middle lane hogging on the motorway is illegal and is considered inconsiderate driving for a reason .

Do you want a badge?

Why does it cause others to undertake though? If they can’t overtake normally then the all the middle lane driver is doing is not undertaking the fast lane driver surely.

While I have some sympathy I think that so many people want to break the speed limit that anyone who doesn’t gets stuck dipping in and out of the lorries all the time which isn’t pleasant or particularly safe. Far more people are killed by speeding drivers than middle lane drivers and middle lane drivers do not cause the speeding.

I don’t flash but I do glare and slag them off. Learn to bloody drive or don’t use motorways. You can spot them on this thread “oooh flashing is so aggressive”.

Probably the same people that stand two abreast on escalators on the tube.

You realise the middle lane people are causing the people to do the weaving around them that they are trying to avoid with the Lorries? That is literally how you should drive on the motorway. If you don’t want to overtake lorries then sit behind them. People often can’t overtake the middle lane people because there are a backlog of cars trying to get past them. It’s them that are driving wrong why are you defending them?

Oh my goodness, I hope all the people say I’m unreasonable and aggressive and that the police would tell me off see this one!!!

That’s what I said in my OP, any time I’ve done it they’ve moved to where they should be, so they actually do know and just selfishly choose not to.

Here’s a picture I found online to give you an example. So you’re happily driving in lane one at 70mph. Lane 2 up ahead looks like this and everyone is driving at 60. But lane 3 is also clogged with people doing around 62. So your choices are: slow down to under 60 and stay in lane 1. Move to lane 2 (if you can) and slow down to try and get into lane 3. Even if you do manage to get into lane 3 you’re still only doing 62mph and barely overtaking anyone because it’s so busy. That motorway is now a 2 lane motorway because of all the people in the middle lane who shouldn’t be there!!

Found one!

Just to be clear to everyone, I in no way have said I was tailgating. Give them plenty time to move over!

Yes but in that case it’s no one’s fault and of course we have to slow down?

Absolutely none of your examples are what I’m talking about though are they?

😂 too true

If there is a constant flow of lorries in the left surely its ok to be in the middle lane until it all clears? Ive NEVER known the fast lane (AKA overtaking lane) to be jammed up. (28yrs on the road) I dont get why you need to flash someone to move when there is an overtaking lane? If its a road with only 2 lanes then sure, completely understand.

Yes, it's would be. And in that scenario the person in the middle lane wouldn't be a MLH as they are using it appropriately and that's irrelevant to the conversation.

But there are loads of times, including on the M25, where the left lane has long gaps between lorries and people are not moving over. Those are the people I flash, as I cross from the 1st to the 3rd lane and back to lane 1 again.

But others HAVE seen it where lanes 2 and 3 are clogged up and 1 is empty. I have seen it. And I’ve also been driving for many years. Let’s take the photo here (that I also posted above). Ok it’s not the busiest road going. But similar to what I see often. Let’s say the middle lane are driving at 58mph. That white car that’s very visible in lane 3 is overtaking them. Technically no problem there. He’s using the lane correctly. However he is driving at 60mph. Only 2mph faster than those in lane 2. It will take him ages to clear all those middle lane drivers. Can you not see how lane 3 will now be getting clogged up? With everyone trying to get round those incorrectly driving in lane 2? If all those cars driving at 58mph moved over, white car could be overtaking in lane 2 at 60mph, leaving those who wish to overtake him with lane 3. As it stands, white car (while driving correctly) is still causing a hold up in lane 3. But it is those who are driving in lane 2s fault. Because it is now a 2 lane motorway with everyone driving at a maximum of 60mph.

Agreed, if you're such a nervous wreck that somebody flashing their lights in your vicinity causes you to panic and slew wildly to one side or the other, then for the good of all concerned get off the road as you are a danger to yourself and others. As to all the middle lane hogger apologists saying 'Ooh but why are you in such a hurry, I like being in the middle lane so stop being mean' - tell you what, if you're not in a hurry then bugger off the motorway onto some single carriageway A roads instead.

My understanding is as long as you are progressing in your lane then you can overtake the middle lane even if you are in the outside lane. So I don’t go over two lanes, I just progress in the inside one.

You can only undertake if the traffic is slow moving (basically a traffic jam on the motorway).

I do say it’s a bit mad seeing all the people who think flashing is highly dangerous and would cause any ill effects on their driving. Surely on a motorway you come across lorries flashing each other to let them back into the left hand lane every few miles. Surely the only response to this is a quick look in the mirrors and acknowledgment of what they’re flashing for.

I didn’t say I do this just that I have some sympathy. I drove on the M25 yesterday which was one of the roads referred to in the OP and there were signs all over the place saying congestion stay in lane. People were following this instruction and I think that was right.

Nobody is forced to undertake and nobody is forced to speed when driving on a motorway. All drivers are responsible for their own decisions. A driver speeding up the slow lane in your example would be dangerous regardless as to what any other car is doing.

Please don't drive when you're feeling so angry, aggressive and entitled, its dangerous