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VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:21

Same question for you @VioletandDill you don’t normally buy it but you will if there’s men on the cover????? Huh?

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:46

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VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:47

MN please unhide the link so people can see what I'm talking about! ☹️ Guys if you do want to see search 'Glamour Woman of the Year UK'. There are 8/9 entrants of which the dolls are last. It's worth a read.

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:49

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

You can go to the official Glamour magazine instagram you will see it there for a start.

Have they done things that are so amazing they should be on the cover?? I must be missing something.

OP posts:
Ddakji · 01/11/2025 10:50

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

On X.

ifyoulikechocolate · 01/11/2025 10:59

Inertia · 01/11/2025 10:21

So I totally misunderstood what you meant by ‘Barbican had a transwoman with a tiny part’.

“tiny part” 🤣

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 05:51

So there must be two groups of people who are “stuck in the wrong body”. The people claiming it and those who got the bodies these people were supposed to have? Do the second group know they are in the wrong bodies? How does this happen? Is it like a production line where something like a soul is put in a body and someone let the intern have a go and they put the souls in the wrong bodies? I have so many questions about this batshit theory.

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

spannasaurus · 01/11/2025 11:36

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

At one point they carried out chromosomal testing on trans people to see if there was a higher incidence of differences of sexual development (or intersex conditions to use the old description) compared to non trans identified people. There wasn't.

BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:37

Vaxtable · 31/10/2025 15:09

The thing to do is for everyone to not buy the magazine.

That’s true, but Glamour is a pile of old crap that I wouldn’t dream of buying anyway so my boycott won’t help, frustrating. Mind you, they have dropped such a dreadful clanger with this that I expect they’ll go out of business anyway. Sad times.

BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:38

ByShyRaven · 31/10/2025 16:40

YABU. Great response from Glamour. Hatred of trans people is no different to the past prevalence and social acceptance of homophobia. Shame on anyone who agrees with JK Rowling.

ODFOD

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 11:44

BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:37

That’s true, but Glamour is a pile of old crap that I wouldn’t dream of buying anyway so my boycott won’t help, frustrating. Mind you, they have dropped such a dreadful clanger with this that I expect they’ll go out of business anyway. Sad times.

Apparently for some women, men being on the cover makes them WANT to go and buy it, even if they haven't for years. Bizzare.

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Hoppinggreen · 01/11/2025 11:47

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:05

Excellent work Glamour - I'll get a copy from the newsagents. Wouldn't be aware of this otherwise so thanks OP! The rest of the women of the year are also worth reading about - including Hannah Hampton, a first class goalie who helped us secure a second Euros victory.

Interestingly if TW were freely allowed to participtate in Womens sport Hannah might not have got a look in

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 11:54

Ddakji · 01/11/2025 10:50

On X.

It's still really difficult to find the image on X unless you're actively searching for it, and even then I can only find JK's tweet and one image from Glamour which isn't that one. Most (as in the vast majority) of their WOTY posts are other people. On Instagram the Dolls occupy 2/45 of their WOTY posts. And I highly doubt that JK follows them otherwise, so she must have gone looking for it.

I conclude that JK ought to put the phone down and get a life.

Anyway, I'm off to the newsagents and then to get on with mine! I'll see whether there is actually a print version. Maybe it'll come back with all the publicity that Mr Galbraith has given it!

Hoppinggreen · 01/11/2025 11:57

Tofufuton · 01/11/2025 03:40

Fancy cramming in any more self-righteous buzzwords so we all get to know what a Good Person™ you are?

And fancy not protecting your daughters so you can virtue signal

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 11:58

PS it's worth noting that the dolls are on A cover, not THE cover. They've done a cover starring each of the WOTY. I think I counted 8.

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 12:02

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 11:44

Apparently for some women, men being on the cover makes them WANT to go and buy it, even if they haven't for years. Bizzare.

They're not buying men on the cover, they're buying a false sense of moral superiority. And they'd better buy it fast because it only comes out in print a couple of times a year now. It's been "focusing on its online presence" for several years, iyswim. Which has largely worked, to be fair, because it's no longer dependent on the quality of the shite it publishes.

Time was women weren't pretty or thin enough to be ideal women, now they're literally not man enough. There have always been women who think their virtue is tied to going along with whatever the new shite for women is, these times are no different.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 01/11/2025 12:02

An author whose books are so popular she is a billionaire (I read though that her charitable donations keeps her under billionaire status?), a woman who started and funds a rape crisis centre, who helped women out of Afghanistan and who gave £10m to fund a Regenerative Neurology Clinic at the RIE hospital in Edinburgh should ‘get a life’ 😂.

I’d give my right arm to have her life! I’d swap in a heartbeat. Glad to see you’re taking your own advice and popping to the shops.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 12:03

The 'dolls' are one aspect of a much bigger thing. JKR is making it look as if they have replaced women in an award, when that simply isn't true. It's not the first time she's misrepresented something for clickbait. I think yabu.

Thatstheheatingon · 01/11/2025 12:04

The picture says "women of the year" and there are no women.
who's misrepresenting? Well except Glamour, who could simply have put "Transwomen of the year"

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 12:05

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 01/11/2025 12:02

An author whose books are so popular she is a billionaire (I read though that her charitable donations keeps her under billionaire status?), a woman who started and funds a rape crisis centre, who helped women out of Afghanistan and who gave £10m to fund a Regenerative Neurology Clinic at the RIE hospital in Edinburgh should ‘get a life’ 😂.

I’d give my right arm to have her life! I’d swap in a heartbeat. Glad to see you’re taking your own advice and popping to the shops.

Correct, she would be a billionaire but she gives too much away to charity and pays her tax in full with no shifty deals.

I mean, the utter joke of fucking Glamour magazine trying to pretend it can judge JKR. That takes some balls.

Ddakji · 01/11/2025 12:05

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 11:54

It's still really difficult to find the image on X unless you're actively searching for it, and even then I can only find JK's tweet and one image from Glamour which isn't that one. Most (as in the vast majority) of their WOTY posts are other people. On Instagram the Dolls occupy 2/45 of their WOTY posts. And I highly doubt that JK follows them otherwise, so she must have gone looking for it.

I conclude that JK ought to put the phone down and get a life.

Anyway, I'm off to the newsagents and then to get on with mine! I'll see whether there is actually a print version. Maybe it'll come back with all the publicity that Mr Galbraith has given it!

I saw it multiple times on X before JKR posted about it.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 12:07

Thatstheheatingon · 01/11/2025 12:04

The picture says "women of the year" and there are no women.
who's misrepresenting? Well except Glamour, who could simply have put "Transwomen of the year"

As others have explained, this is one picture out of a bigger series.

Yes, I suppose they could have put 'Transwomen of the Year', but it's not something I can be bothered to get my knickers in a twist about.

Thatstheheatingon · 01/11/2025 12:07

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 11:58

PS it's worth noting that the dolls are on A cover, not THE cover. They've done a cover starring each of the WOTY. I think I counted 8.

That's interesting - is it accurate though that they have put the label "women of the year" on the picture of the transwomen then, or not?

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 12:09

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

There is absolutely zero evidence of any of that, however

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 12:13

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 12:09

There is absolutely zero evidence of any of that, however

And even if there were, so fucking what? Those with female bodies are still a definable and cohesive group that require certain rights and protections based on having those female bodies. Absolutely nothing to do with validation or affirmation or self image; women who claim to be men still have those rights.