To be surprised Andrew has lost his Prince title

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I certainly think this is absolutely the right decision. But this has all been swept under the carpet for a long time with the usual head in the sand approach. If makes me think there might be more to come out. This wasn't just going to go away.

Is very odd, didn't even know it was possible to take away the prince title. He was born into it and just signifies his mum was a queen. I don't think anyone was even asking for it to be removed, just the honorary titles? And seeing as he's not actually been found guilty of any crime, some might say even that's a bit too far (not me, I think he's an obnoxious little shit and deserves everything he gets). It suggests that the royal titles are all a bit meaningless if they can be given or taken on a whim, which isn't a great look for the monarchy; a bit like they're all just in a weird club where they grant each other nicknames, like little children forming a 'gang'! So I presume there must be something more going on for Charles to have gone this far...

Yeah, raping trafficked teenagers on a sex island is TOTALLY comparable with marrying a non-white woman and deciding the royal way of life is bullshit.

are you ok??

I can't imagine this will be the end for the Royal Family. How long has Charles believed that Andrew was a paedophile, and tried to cover it up? It is time that the whole lot of them went. We don't need one family to be given so much privilege because a fictional god says so.

Definitely. They are hoping to cut the rot off as it were at the root. I’m not sure it’s possible though because Andrew’s activities were known about years ago, Both the sexual wrongdoings, and the alleged corruption.

It’s alleged by Lownie that documented proof was brought by credible sources to the late Queen E2 and it was ignored. A large sum of money was paid so that Andrew didn’t have to face a day in court. The trade envoy papers are unable to be examined publically, even though the British tax payer supported Andrew’s activities abroad.

What I want to know is, if the Epstein case hadn’t come to light publically, would the RF still be sitting on Andrew’s wrongdoings and covering them up?

Why is it that every time a serious journalist has a proper dig in to the activities of the RF, dubious things are found? Put simply, why is it necessary for our Head of State in 2025, in a supposed democracy, to operate behind such a thick wall of secrecy? What else are they hiding?

Why is it that every time a serious journalist has a proper dig in to the activities of the RF, dubious things are found? Put simply, why is it necessary for our Head of State in 2025, in a supposed democracy, to operate behind such a thick wall of secrecy? What else are they hiding?
Well quite. You would think that a famiy who were so privileged, and through no effort of their own would at least behave in a proper manner.

But that was because of " concerns" of legitimacy, not behaviour
I don't see how Prince can be removed as that is what he is, son of a past monarch. Just shows what a farce all this royal palaver is.

Its just words though. He's still on the Line of Succession.

I think his move to the Sandringham estate and any financial help going forward will have been agreed based on no reality tv, no interviews, no books etc.

It will be interesting to see what she does. She did heavily imply that she was the breadwinner of the pair in recent years so maybe she's hoping for a Budgie the little helicopter revival!

I’m also waiting on more to come out on the ‘Prince of Darkness’, he’s an odious pos and I would like to see him sent down.

I was wondering about the the line of succession. But I think Beatrice and Eugenie would need to be removed too if he was. Like Edward Viii 'heirs and successors' even though he had none.

He's so far down the line now that it would be a waste of time and money to remove him formally. It's incredibly unlikely that William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry, Archie and Lilibet will all die or decline the throne before Andrew dies.

This just irritates me. I couldn't care less if he's a prince or not, to my mind that's a made up status based on a notion of power I don't agree with. Investigate him, let the law decide if he's guilty of something. If he's deemed guilty, let him get that verdict whilst having a silly title of prince. What's important is the investigation, and if the royal family have some protection against legal proceedings because of their blood line, then this needs to be discussed and changed.

I think it just proves what a colossal joke the whole thing is that they can move the goalposts whenever it suits them in order to “ protect the crown” for another couple of decades. One day, and I hope it’s soon, they’re going to run out of public goodwill and their overlong reign will finally end.

Well a doctor would lose their registration so they wouldnt be a doctor

A doctor PHD doctor would still be a doctor

Someone is born a prince, its not an appointed role so I dont see how that can or should have been removed

You can still be a prince and be banished, have no public role, be seen as irrelevant.

Personally it makes no sense and is just a modern thing of 'having to do something' when the other things do make more sense, he was nothing to do with public life any more, his other titles which were appointed to him were given up, he wasnt part of the fold any more.

He hasnt been convicted of anything and for people saying, he could have gone to court, on what? What was he charged with exactly? What court?

To be honest I’d rather he had kept his title of Prince and been arrested and charged instead. Absolute joke that removal of a title seems to be an option instead of actual punishment for a crime.

As the late Queen's favourite son I think she had a blind spot and hoped the problem would disappear. Now Charles is head, with William not far behind, they clearly do not think along the same lines. Add on Camilla publicly supporting charities which address violence against women the whole situation was inevitable.

Yes - this is the core of it .

Will the police interview Andrew ?

Will a debate be allowed among MPs about how the Windsors exploit their position financially?

If the answer is no to either those questions then this is more ‘above the law’ bullshit and people clapping thinking this is ‘strong action’ are fools

Yes it's a move to sweep the whole thing under the carpet.

Needs all
his devices checked too I think

Someone is born a prince, its not an appointed role so I dont see how that can or should have been removed

I am sure being born a Prince in the UK is a legal status and an Act of Parliament would be needed to remove it. So it's more likely that Charles has ordered Andrew to stop using his Prince title rather than actually legally removing it which would surely be a lengthy and complex process.

Prince Edward's children were born Prince and Princess and are legally entitled to the title but have never used them, instead being styled as a Lady and a Viscount. What I'm trying to say is that it's not compulsory to style oneself as a Prince just because one is legally a Prince. So it's probably a similar thing to say he will now be known as (Mr) Mountbatten Windsor instead.

Seems to be the alternative to accountability for some is a change of name and address !

There was a civil lawsuit in 2022. To create lawsuit there has to be accusation. The thing is that the details of that were not made public.

I think there is more to come out about him and they're just getting ahead of the public outrage.

It’s a bold, but good move.

People are getting weary of the monarchy and they don’t cherish it like they did under Queen Elizabeth. William clearly wants the monarchy to evolve and change to survive, but also morph into something he’s comfortable with, like a European monarchy that is seen but not really heard, rather than constant click bait.

This was both an opportunity and a necessity. Getting rid of Andrew sends out a message that our monarchy has morales at its core, and won’t put up with any shit moving forward. I do think Harry & Meghan will STFU now, as it’s been demonstrated that the RF is willing to cut people off. Whilst Charles is alive he won’t do that, but I’m certain William will deal with him ruthlessly when king if he starts badmouthing them again.

I don't think William wants it to be like a European monarchy, with all the allegations of corruption, over spending, and lack of accountability that has dogged so many of those royal houses. They're by no means low key or squeaky clean.
Perhaps a modern, pared down version of the current set up would be better.