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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 19:22

OnlyOnAFriday · 28/10/2025 19:08

Reform are going to have a landslide. The next election will be a one issue election. The nhs will be thrown under the bus. And god knows if Reform will actually be able to solve the problem or if they’ll just be full of hot air when in opposition like everyone else. Problem is by the time we find that out it’s too late. Will have Farage and a bunch of 19yos in charge for five years. God help us.

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Just because Farage won't have a team of career politicans who know nothing about the world outside Westminister like Starmer has doesn't mean they all have to be 19.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 19:23

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 19:14

As I have answered all your questions and simply get more questions in return, let me ask you the same. Who do you think can stop the boats? Or do you not want them stopped?

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I don't think any government can stop the boats, they can reduce them by offering safe and legal routes.

Ofcourse I want the boats stopped, nobody should die trying to seek refuge

But as the boats aren't going to be stopped any time soon, I just want the asylum seekers treated as human beings. Apparently that is something posters on here don't agree with.

I haven't seen your reply, can you point me to it?

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 19:33

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 19:23

I don't think any government can stop the boats, they can reduce them by offering safe and legal routes.

Ofcourse I want the boats stopped, nobody should die trying to seek refuge

But as the boats aren't going to be stopped any time soon, I just want the asylum seekers treated as human beings. Apparently that is something posters on here don't agree with.

I haven't seen your reply, can you point me to it?

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Who do I think can stop the boats - not the Tories or Labour as they have failed so far. Possibly Reform will but that remains to be seen. At any rate Reform will most likely form the next govt so asylum seekers have it very much better now than they might in 3.5 years time. Something to ponder.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 19:35

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 19:33

Who do I think can stop the boats - not the Tories or Labour as they have failed so far. Possibly Reform will but that remains to be seen. At any rate Reform will most likely form the next govt so asylum seekers have it very much better now than they might in 3.5 years time. Something to ponder.

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And something for you to look forward to

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 19:35

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 19:35

And something for you to look forward to

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Right.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:40

Whatifitallgoesright · 28/10/2025 12:39

I thought the point of army barracks was so they could be securely contained. I assume they will be locked in there and not have minibuses laid on to deposit them at the nearest town to wander round at will all day.

That will be perfect. And with a migrant tag and number

EleanorTopaz · 28/10/2025 19:40

This government should be using it's energy and resources to find ways to get these people out of our country.

There are now too many of these feral young men who, frankly, are not going to become useful British citizens. Their cultures are incompatible, many are violent and wish to prey on us.

Yes, they will be housed temporarily, but the focus should be on changing or removing laws, or replacing the ECHR with a British bill of rights, which will deliver what we want and need as a priority. There has to be a way to do this but there has been no political will.

We cannot solve the problems of the world or provide a better life for hundreds of thousands of those from other continents without harming or destroying our way of life.

It's as simple as that. If Labour just keep fudging this problem, hopefully the next government won't.

This situation cannot continue and we have to harden our hearts to it.

user1497787065 · 28/10/2025 19:44

But Labour thought the Bibby Stockholm was inhumane?

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 19:45

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 19:19

The main reason that young men go is the family reunification scheme. Only the man needs to be be granted asylum then their family can come over on the plane. Starmer announced that would end at conference, whether it will or not is another matter. Every asylum seeker in a hotel represents a number of people coming to the UK.

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We’ll more likely just have a very high majority of asylum being granted to men when this happens.

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 19:46

user1497787065 · 28/10/2025 19:44

But Labour thought the Bibby Stockholm was inhumane?

When they were in opposition. They also thought they had a fully costed plan no ifs no buts. So I guess things can change.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:50

Wildgoat · 28/10/2025 12:51

I actually think this is the the first sound idea they have had. However they need to stop spending and taxing, it’s labour of old. Tax and spend, tax and spend; always the same. No one in Labour should be saying irrelevant of cost, when quite frankly it’s just about public perception in the main.

i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time.

i think it’s game over for Labour, and the budget will be the final nail in the coffin, there will be a public outcry, they are already trying to prepare the public for what’s to come with the soft leaks to see reaction, income tax increase, mansion tax etc, and there will be no way back for them, no matter what they do over the next 3 years.

Starmer will throw reeves under the bus, to save his skin, as they don’t have anyone to take over from him, so even though he’s clearly wholly incapable and out of his depth , no one wants the poison chalice other than some real hard core lefties that the public would not accept, and none of them are any more capable.

To be honest, I’m not sure even starmer wants to be pm any more, he’s just waiting to get the fuck out of there and get a lucrative consulting role.

its a shit show of epic proportions, the issue is they fucked the economy so hard and so fast and now don’t know how to fix it, so everything they do makes it worse as they are utterly clueless.

Then listen up, Britain. Screw your head well and stop voting for Labour ever again. Tories will be just fine

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:53

Octavia64 · 28/10/2025 12:51

It’s not just about the money.

obviously it is partly about the money.

but people are also concerned that asylum seekers from violent countries are being housed in their communities and because of the way it works you are getting large numbers in some small communities who frankly can’t really cope with them.

if asylum seekers are housed in separate areas it’ll reduce the community tension as there will be fewer protests etc in the middle of towns and villages.

I personally would be happy for it to cost more.

i live near a few military bases and frankly I think it’s a good idea. You can provide facilities on the sites - healthcare and suchlike - and there won’t be such a clash of cultures.

And also the army should pull their hands out off their bums and actually provide 24/7 guarding of the migrants and control them. This is the army's job, to protect the nation

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 19:53

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:50

Then listen up, Britain. Screw your head well and stop voting for Labour ever again. Tories will be just fine

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If lesson isn’t learnt this time it never will be.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:57

ScholesPanda · 28/10/2025 12:54

Oh well OP, once Reform get in they've promised to spend even more money on detention centres.

People want to see the migrants suffer. Maybe Reform can recoup some of the money by live streaming a kind of Big Brother of human misery?

your high up is wrong and yes, detentions centre will be created. Believe me. They are needed. This shit show won't last forever as the people will keep protesting

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 20:01

AllTheseYears · 28/10/2025 12:59

Hotels that were popular enough to be thriving aren’t generally used.

Also, they don’t get to use any of the facilities which make them nice, such as spas etc.

I do wish people would use their brains and realise they’re being manipulated.

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people like you are the only ones manipulated.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 20:02

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 19:40

That will be perfect. And with a migrant tag and number

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Is this a serious comment?

Griff123 · 28/10/2025 20:07

Wildgoat. "i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time."

That's not true though, is it? (If you think it is, give examples).

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:07

Whammyammy · 28/10/2025 12:33

I think labour actually "get it" with this. Moving migrants from cushy hotels to basic barracks will be a deterrent. Currently the temptation to cross the channel for free hotels and all that go with them won't be as attractive as old army barracks.
Bravo labour.

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Agree. One of them is near Inverness, I understand? We’re about 115 miles south and we had our first, very tiny flurry of sleet/snow around 5am today.
Anyone coming from a warm climate will need to be very serious indeed to be willing to spend potentially a year in basic conditions.

No, not a joke about our Scottish weather. A valid point, I think. Remote, probably not very comfortable, not allowed to work until your claim is processed.

I think in time that will weed out any chancers. Personally, fully support legitimate claimants and their families.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 20:09

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 20:02

Is this a serious comment?

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God grant you few more years to live and see what happens my dear

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 20:10

The stupidity on this thread is astonishing

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:10

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:07

Agree. One of them is near Inverness, I understand? We’re about 115 miles south and we had our first, very tiny flurry of sleet/snow around 5am today.
Anyone coming from a warm climate will need to be very serious indeed to be willing to spend potentially a year in basic conditions.

No, not a joke about our Scottish weather. A valid point, I think. Remote, probably not very comfortable, not allowed to work until your claim is processed.

I think in time that will weed out any chancers. Personally, fully support legitimate claimants and their families.

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No it won’t. A boat on the Channel doesn’t and whatever comes before that.

A barrack somewhere makes no odds.

notnorman · 28/10/2025 20:10

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

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Surely the crime is coming here illegally in the first place? I like it in the US but if I turned up there in a little boat from France it would be illegal

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 20:16

notnorman · 28/10/2025 20:10

Surely the crime is coming here illegally in the first place? I like it in the US but if I turned up there in a little boat from France it would be illegal

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You could claim asylum.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 28/10/2025 20:18

Ablondiebutagoody · 28/10/2025 13:01

France must have changed since I was last there!

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😂😂😂😂

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 28/10/2025 20:21

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

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They have entered this country illegally so….

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