Why do Labour not get it?

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It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

Yep. Cameron Barracks in Inverness - right in the centre and close to schools.
Great idea.

The local MP seems furious at these plans. He has also spoken about how close the barracks are to housing and the centre etc. I'd be extremely worried if I lived nearby.

Yep it’s horrifying.

The Cameron Barracks were used before to house fighting age men.

Sounds like a good idea to me

If we could have a more efficient system without the human rights abuses and without leaving people in limbo for years on end then I'm in!

Talk about flip flopping. It was only a few months ago Labour intervened in an ex base near here and said migrants weren’t coming. This was after they’d spent money kitting it up. They’d even employed security guards and certainly advertised for staff to run it. But nobody ever came. It’s still empty and afaik up for sale. No idea if it will get commandeered again.

and the problem if any with it is that it’s out in the sticks. Was meant to house a couple of thousand men I think. Who are free to walk out the gates, there’s a few small villages in walking distance. What are people going to spend their days doing? Seems like an open prison in all but name!

You are wrong. Ok some are not that nice, but most are decent lovely hotels. Certainly luxury to those of us that could never afford it. Why do you not believe this?

And there is the 'trappings'. They are fed, clothed, free dental care, free medical treatment and more. I'm not saying they shouldn't have those things, I'm just pointing out the 'trappings'.

Do you work inside these hotels or are you falling for the propaganda?

Just me?

How would that work? My taxes go towards housing and feeding asylum seekers but yours don't?

You can if you do what you said, you just need to deport people when they arrive as you proposed (and ignore international law).

Can you imagine the uproar if hundreds/thousands of aslylum seekers were sleeping rough in your town centre? In your street? Would you be happy with that? Stepping over them to get in your front door?

If they have no support or food what do you think they will have to do to eat seeing as they can’t work and earn a wage? Crime would rocket.

Agree with this and the fact I don’t think these countries necessarily have a robust DBS type scheme.

The whole thing is a mess. I don’t want genuine asylum seekers turned away but such genuine ones are surely a small percentage of the people who are coming here. I am fed up that so much money is being spent. I am worried about the small number of asylum seekers who are committing horrific crimes and making our communities less safe. I’m worried where this is all going to end as it seems to be spiralling. Labour do need to get a grip on this urgently but then the Tories didn’t either.

That would be a fantastic idea. Wouldn't it be good if it happened

From what I can see, about half of people who claim asylum are granted it. For those who arrive by small boats, the rate is 66%.

This is absolutely right. Yes - they shouldn’t be free to wander around until their application has been approved. It’s common sense really. If they’re unsuccessful it’s also easier to ensure they don’t just disappear.

I thought you were happy to do it?

Or aren't you?

All talk and no walk.

But you are so much wanting to help!

They are not long abandoned lol, I work at another army barracks camp (not Cameron Bks) and I can assure you they are very much being used every day by both soldiers and civvies. I’d be fuming if they moved migrants into my workplace.

It’s such a shame that we can’t use the army barracks for ex vets and our own homeless.

Then why is it mostly young men? Where are their women and children?

Lots of reasons. It's a very dangerous trip to make, culturally young men are valued over women, and so would be the ones to make the trip, many families can only afford for one person to make the trip, so prioritise their sons, more humanitarian routes tend to prioritise women and children, so young men have less choices ...

I am, my taxes pay for many thing in society.

How will you opt out?