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To think Toby Carvery is working class ?

333 replies

JoanneTeresa · 26/10/2025 18:46

I went this week and was looking around at the likely demographic

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JoanneTeresa · 27/10/2025 08:35

Thepeopleversuswork · 27/10/2025 08:09

Who cares?

My mum would have had the vapours about me eating at a carvery (she was a roaring snob). My OH (who comes from a working class background) loves it. I had never been before I met him.

I love it. What do you think it going to happen if you eat in a working class restaurant? Do you think you will suddenly start dropping consonants overnight?

Chill.

lol!!!!!

my mum was a roaring snob !

my DP is council estate, uneducated background working class

my DP drops consonants like confetti and I love it ! 🤣

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AllThisTime · 27/10/2025 08:57

Umbonkers · 27/10/2025 07:51

Absolute rubbish - most of the veg is fresh, roast and mash prepped and cooked from fresh potatoes and yorkshires also cooked fresh. Turkey is UK red tractor. The food is excellent quality for the price and prepared fresh every day in their kitchens. It’s cheap because, if you get the business model right - which they do- it’s an efficient way to serve food. Oh and it’s owned by M&B not Whitbread

The red tractor thing has been shown many times to be worthless. Farms with it don’t always comply in the way they’re meant to.

Nitgel · 27/10/2025 08:59

Our tc is very mixed demographically. But as an aside I've noticed they really oversell now and the queues are awful so I don't bother.

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:03

I’m middle class and eat there, btw there’s a lot on here who claim to be middle class when what they describe is actually upper (100k salary and private school) not to mention the ones claiming to be working class because their great grandfather worked in a factory.
Huge obsession with downplaying and humbling themselves not sure why. But toby carvery is good

Ponoka7 · 27/10/2025 09:09

BitOutOfPractice · 27/10/2025 07:52

Im 58, went to an RG uni no less, I’ve run my own marketing business for 27 years erm, I’m trying to think of any other MC markers. I shop at Waitrose and John Lewis. I live in a “naice” city in the south east, mortgage paid off. I listen to radio 4 and read avidly. My kids both went to RG universities and now have professional jobs. But I like a Toby Carvery and have an accent from the provinces. I’m an enigma. And it just goes to show that class distinctions are basically ridiculous.

You use the term "gravy dinner", you are just a wrong'un.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 09:11

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:03

I’m middle class and eat there, btw there’s a lot on here who claim to be middle class when what they describe is actually upper (100k salary and private school) not to mention the ones claiming to be working class because their great grandfather worked in a factory.
Huge obsession with downplaying and humbling themselves not sure why. But toby carvery is good

How does earning £100k make you upper middle class? 😂😭

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:14

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 09:11

How does earning £100k make you upper middle class? 😂😭

its top 4% of the uk salary so they sure as fuck are not middle class. Which is fine but why not own that? Unless they don’t know what middle means.

BitOutOfPractice · 27/10/2025 09:17

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 08:04

Also goes to show you can’t shop your way out of the class system 😂

Well quite. Or dine your way out either. It’s utterly ridiculous to pigeon hole anyone in the sort of ways I listed. I have no idea what class I am, nor do I care.

Hidingbehindthechaos · 27/10/2025 09:19

user1476613140 · 26/10/2025 19:11

Toby's Carvery isn't cheap! It's expensive for a meal there. Wouldn't describe it as working class, no.

I agree, there are 5 of us and its not cheap for 1 drink and the standard plate. Nowhere other than wetherspoons is cheap any more unless there are special deals

BitOutOfPractice · 27/10/2025 09:20

Ponoka7 · 27/10/2025 09:09

You use the term "gravy dinner", you are just a wrong'un.

Eek yes sorry. That was a term my dd2 used when she was little and it’s stuck so hard I forget it’s not a well known phrase or saying. I’m banged to rights there!

LoudSnoringDog · 27/10/2025 09:21

I love it.

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 09:39

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:14

its top 4% of the uk salary so they sure as fuck are not middle class. Which is fine but why not own that? Unless they don’t know what middle means.

I think it's more about household income, surely? A single parent on 100k pre-tax couldn't afford private school fees.

Our household income is close to that (pre-tax, joint income). According to a quick Google we're considered upper middle class. We are comfortable enough, yes - I'm not complaining. We have enough money for everything we need and some of what we want. We definitely can't afford private school, though.

And we're eating at Toby tonight, so not sure where that leaves us 😅

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 09:40

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:14

its top 4% of the uk salary so they sure as fuck are not middle class. Which is fine but why not own that? Unless they don’t know what middle means.

In the uk class isn’t related to income.

Untailored · 27/10/2025 09:40

Of course it is but it’s not nice to point it out

FairKoala · 27/10/2025 09:44

Fnbbb · 26/10/2025 18:48

It's tasty.

Granted I don’t eat meat so can’t comment on that but the rest was just tasteless slop
Including the roasts which were just tasteless and greasy with no crispy outer

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 09:44

Hidingbehindthechaos · 27/10/2025 09:19

I agree, there are 5 of us and its not cheap for 1 drink and the standard plate. Nowhere other than wetherspoons is cheap any more unless there are special deals

Wetherspoons is microwaved meals and their profits and low cost are a result of the size of their margins (cheap food, inferior quality) because they treat their staff so badly (low pay, high workload).

Toby actually represent pretty good value for money, particularly so if you can find a 20% off deal which are fairly common. Their set midweek menus are worth a look. And if you or someone you know have a bluelight card, you get 20% off.

No, I'm not on a commission with them.

Olderbutt · 27/10/2025 09:45

Our local one is chav central and really tatty. Others Ive been to have been tidy, clean and pleasant with 'better' customers.

FairKoala · 27/10/2025 09:45

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:14

its top 4% of the uk salary so they sure as fuck are not middle class. Which is fine but why not own that? Unless they don’t know what middle means.

Class and income are not related

Hidingbehindthechaos · 27/10/2025 09:48

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 09:44

Wetherspoons is microwaved meals and their profits and low cost are a result of the size of their margins (cheap food, inferior quality) because they treat their staff so badly (low pay, high workload).

Toby actually represent pretty good value for money, particularly so if you can find a 20% off deal which are fairly common. Their set midweek menus are worth a look. And if you or someone you know have a bluelight card, you get 20% off.

No, I'm not on a commission with them.

Edited

Hi, sorry yes I know all that but was just stating that its not cheap, i probsbly didnt word it well. I really like Toby Carvery and having 2 out of 3 ND children its great as they can pick and choose. I have blue light card but generally we are only able to go on Sundays when there doesnt seem to be any discount. I actually think even at full price they are good value but that doesnt equal cheap for a family.

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:48

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 09:39

I think it's more about household income, surely? A single parent on 100k pre-tax couldn't afford private school fees.

Our household income is close to that (pre-tax, joint income). According to a quick Google we're considered upper middle class. We are comfortable enough, yes - I'm not complaining. We have enough money for everything we need and some of what we want. We definitely can't afford private school, though.

And we're eating at Toby tonight, so not sure where that leaves us 😅

That’s fair enough some people have strange ideas around class on here from the ones wanting sympathy for apparently being working class because their grandad worked in a factory. To the age you had your first child thread where I was told I’m not middle class because I had my first at 16 (apparently 20s is working and 30s is middle).
Now this toby carvery thread which I haven’t read the whole thing but assume it’s a joke.

And I’ve just remembered the holiday thread where butlins is apparently working class and centre parks is middle.

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 27/10/2025 09:49

We went to a Toby Carvery a couple of weeks ago and I really don't get what the fuss is about! Sure, it's cheap and, I guess, cheerful, but the food wasn't that nice! The Yorkshire pudding was rubbery, the meat was dry, the gravy was bland! I'd rather pay a bit extra and get a carvery that is a treat!
Couldn't care less if my fellow diners are working class though - what a weird thing to say!

CharSiu · 27/10/2025 09:52

Whilst roast dinners can vary in quality and stuff such as crispy potatoes versus soggy it’s just a very basic dinner. Pile them high sell them cheap.

It’s the Asda of eating out, cheap and cheerful but who doesn’t love a bargain sometimes.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 09:53

Hussaini · 27/10/2025 09:48

That’s fair enough some people have strange ideas around class on here from the ones wanting sympathy for apparently being working class because their grandad worked in a factory. To the age you had your first child thread where I was told I’m not middle class because I had my first at 16 (apparently 20s is working and 30s is middle).
Now this toby carvery thread which I haven’t read the whole thing but assume it’s a joke.

And I’ve just remembered the holiday thread where butlins is apparently working class and centre parks is middle.

Why do you think your ideas about class are correct? You’ve said above you think class is dictated by income, which it’s not.

people have the right to self identify their class, but as well as that class is very clearly embedded in background, culture and upbringing.

eta- why on earth would people want sympathy for being WC?

iCod · 27/10/2025 09:55

God, I so agree it's terrible

Very proletarian

mintich · 27/10/2025 09:55

I'm what you would consider middle class and we go to Toby Carvery. The kids love it and so do we!