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To think Toby Carvery is working class ?

333 replies

JoanneTeresa · 26/10/2025 18:46

I went this week and was looking around at the likely demographic

OP posts:
HelenaWaiting · 26/10/2025 20:17

JoanneTeresa · 26/10/2025 18:46

I went this week and was looking around at the likely demographic

No, it's bloody not. I'm working class and I wouldn't eat there if you paid me. Do you think that working class people have no standards?

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 26/10/2025 20:17

We sometimes go after visiting a certain place for Sunday lunch.
I think it’s quite good. Definitely not the best meal I’ve ever had but sufficient.
The one we use is in a nice area, and there are hardly any children there which suits us just fine.

Bambamhoohoo · 26/10/2025 20:20

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 20:08

Lol do you think I actually care. It's an apt description of the people that frequent the Toby I speak of

I don’t know, would you care about people describing the N*** at their local chicken shop?

CurlewKate · 26/10/2025 20:23

I am not at all working class. I love a carvery. Toby or otherwise.

Okiedokie123 · 26/10/2025 20:29

MoominMai · 26/10/2025 19:41

Lol. I mean OPs not wrong I guess but it’s a bit like saying I shop at Harrods food court and just noticed all the customers are middle class 😅.

Like no shit Sherlock. Not a dig at you OP btw but just made me smile. We can see this class division replicated at many different establishments. It’s not a new phenomena but I guess it might seem a bit strange to observe if you were initially oblivious to it.

Yes! But I’d add another couple of lines.

“Its a bit like saying I shop at Harrods food court
and just noticed all the customers are middle class”
AND I am middle class.
Im in an establishment where almost the entire demographic are very similar to me. Blimey what an observant person I am all of a sudden.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/10/2025 20:44

RosesAndHellebores · 26/10/2025 19:23

Just the op who described the gaff as working class.

We went once. The chap ahead of us decided to try the gravies, all of them, by dipping in his finger and licking it. Frankly he had no class but put us off for life.

We had dry dinner and the tables were a bit a sticky. DH nearly had a melt down: queued, fingers in the gravy, sticky tables, rubbosh wine and beer.

@CremeBruhlee on nights like that, I buy steaks, a ready made salad bowl, pot of bearnaise sauce and shove in some oven chips or new potatoes. Cheaper and better.

Not a ‘massive’ Mumsnet salad ??

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 20:54

Bambamhoohoo · 26/10/2025 20:20

I don’t know, would you care about people describing the N*** at their local chicken shop?

I've no idea what you are trying to say but if you are suggesting the n word for black people well that's a racist slur. Chav isn't anything to do with race. Get off your high horse

opencecilgee · 26/10/2025 20:55

we dont have one nearby but always assumed they were lower working class

GlitterFaery · 26/10/2025 20:55

You were looking in the mirror then?

Fnbbb · 26/10/2025 21:00

What's the point of this thread?

JifNtGif · 26/10/2025 21:07

BitOutOfPractice · 26/10/2025 18:49

I’m middle class. I love a gravy dinner at Toby. Where does that put me in your social hierarchy.

Sadly it would seem you are working class

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/10/2025 21:11

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 20:54

I've no idea what you are trying to say but if you are suggesting the n word for black people well that's a racist slur. Chav isn't anything to do with race. Get off your high horse

You know full well ‘Chav’ is a loaded term in some contexts - see also ‘gammon’ for someone like my dad who is a beautiful person, conservative with a small C in his world view which results in him being offensive to some people for just existing

Chav- Doesn't bother me at all as despite my two degrees and ‘career’ and money, I use it about myself and my kids at times in affectionate way relating to my W/C background upbringing, accent, and some of my kids dress sense and crazy antics during their teen/ school years

You mean it in the nastiest sense of the word , it’s classist and derogatory and well you know it me duck !

Bambamhoohoo · 26/10/2025 21:22

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 20:54

I've no idea what you are trying to say but if you are suggesting the n word for black people well that's a racist slur. Chav isn't anything to do with race. Get off your high horse

Chav is a discriminatory slur, it’s weird that you can’t see the connection

elliejjtiny · 26/10/2025 21:41

I love it, especially the breakfast. The toby carvery near us has closed down and been replaced by miller and carter, not impressed!

TheHairInClaudiasEyes · 26/10/2025 21:47

George Michael loved a carvery.

Franjipanl8r · 26/10/2025 21:48

I’ve never been and never intend to, does that mean by default I’m middle class?

Thankyourose · 26/10/2025 21:48

JoanneTeresa · 26/10/2025 18:46

I went this week and was looking around at the likely demographic

Never heard of it! Brought up very much WC… is it an English thing??

Franjipanl8r · 26/10/2025 21:54

Are you middle class quiz:

  1. do you go to Toby Carvery?
  2. do you go to the Harvester?
  3. do you go camping?
soupyspoon · 26/10/2025 21:59

user1476613140 · 26/10/2025 19:11

Toby's Carvery isn't cheap! It's expensive for a meal there. Wouldn't describe it as working class, no.

Are the working classes poor then?

Working class hasnt really been about income, its more about labour/division/ownership/management or otherwise

Manual jobs are generally seen as WC for example but they earn quite a lot of money , plumbers, train drivers, etc etc

CloudSky · 26/10/2025 22:01

They’re all crap these days. Carvery used to be great, these days it’s all bland, unseasoned, minimal effort crap. It also used to be cheap, not so anymore.

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 22:01

Bambamhoohoo · 26/10/2025 21:22

Chav is a discriminatory slur, it’s weird that you can’t see the connection

Of course it's a slur. But an apt description of the people that act like it. It's something people can control and choose how to behave so totally different from skin colour which someone was trying to bring into it

I'm working class but not a Chav .

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 26/10/2025 22:02

I read the title and thought “who is Toby Carvery?” I’ve nothing useful to add.

RubySquid · 26/10/2025 22:03

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/10/2025 21:11

You know full well ‘Chav’ is a loaded term in some contexts - see also ‘gammon’ for someone like my dad who is a beautiful person, conservative with a small C in his world view which results in him being offensive to some people for just existing

Chav- Doesn't bother me at all as despite my two degrees and ‘career’ and money, I use it about myself and my kids at times in affectionate way relating to my W/C background upbringing, accent, and some of my kids dress sense and crazy antics during their teen/ school years

You mean it in the nastiest sense of the word , it’s classist and derogatory and well you know it me duck !

What on earth is " gammon" ? You've lost me there.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/10/2025 22:10

TheHairInClaudiasEyes · 26/10/2025 21:47

George Michael loved a carvery.

Working class hero and my life long crush
I hope they have a carvery up in popstar heaven
I hope you are enjoying double bubble Yorkies, the crispy bits swimming in honey at the bottom of the parsnip vat, caulk cheese mush as hot as lava and extra slightly greasy gravey with a bit of skin forming - always and forever my sweet sweet man…with a side of pigs in blankets when it’s not even fucking Christmas time!

absolutley starving now ! Could hands down do a big daddy/the guv’nor oval plate to be fair!!

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/10/2025 22:10

TheHairInClaudiasEyes · 26/10/2025 21:47

George Michael loved a carvery.

Working class hero and my life long crush
I hope they have a carvery up in popstar heaven
I hope you are enjoying double bubble Yorkies, the crispy bits swimming in honey at the bottom of the parsnip vat, caulk cheese mush as hot as lava and extra slightly greasy gravey with a bit of skin forming - always and forever my sweet sweet man…with a side of pigs in blankets when it’s not even fucking Christmas time!

absolutley starving now ! Could hands down do a big daddy/the guv’nor oval plate to be fair!!

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