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This is a scam isn’t it?

137 replies

Namechabgeforthissss · 26/10/2025 09:11

I’m pretty sure it is but I’m actually quite surprised by the tone of the messages now. I moved into a lovely neighbourhood and one of the neighbours same age kids as mine, same profession as mine too so we had a lot in common. I thought she was a lovely person with a lovely family so I wanted to get to know her more.

It started off with just a simple text asking if I wanted to make extra money on the side which I said I don’t have time right now as I’m still settling into new home and new job. Few weeks later another one and to be polite I asked details and she said I just need to give her £800 to become her partner on the business and then sign up at least 4 more people and I can earn £1200 a month! I told her again really politely I don’t have time do I won’t sign up. She’s messaged me again a few more times including this morning at 6am! Saying she really wants me to have this opportunity as it won’t come again. I obviously know it’s a scam but it’s put me off getting to know her better. Our kids are in same school so I wanted the kids to get friendly but I’m feeling like completely blanking her now. It’s such a pity as I think it would have been nice for the kids. Am I right to avoid her?

husband said it’s a pyramid scheme. I obviously will not be giving her any money on any grounds or signing up to some weird partnership

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CoffeeCantata · 26/10/2025 13:03

OP run ,run run!

If you go along with this you’ll be doing exactly what she’s doing to other people. And you’ll have sleepless nights stressing about how you can recruit your 4 victims. The only way she can recoup her money is to pressurise others which is why she’s being so brazen.

This is a problem you don’t need.

Coffeetime25 · 26/10/2025 13:03

screams scam if you give her money more fool you don't come back crying the victim lol

SingingOcean · 26/10/2025 14:28

Well, "This is a scam isn’t it?" and "Am I right to avoid her?" sounds like you weren't actually clear.

Steeleydan · 26/10/2025 14:38

BerryTwister · 26/10/2025 10:25

I briefly went out with a man who did the Amway pyramid scheme, many years ago. He didn’t try to recruit me for some reason, but he told me the “tricks of the trade” he had for recruiting people, and it was so devious.

He had a proper job as a sales rep for hospital equipment, so he’d regularly go to hospital canteens for food. He was very attractive and personable, and he’d chat to the staff at the till, saying things like “busy day isn’t it. You lot work so hard here don’t you, I bet you wish there was an easier way to make money. If I hear of anything I’ll let you know”. Then he’d go back a few times and gradually reel them in.

He also tracked down old school friends and acquaintances and called them, claiming he was working in their area, and wanting to meet to catch up, then he’d try and recruit them.

He showed me some of the sales material he had. Audio recordings telling him he was amazing and special and deserved good things. He was encouraged to visualise the things he wanted and display photos of his aims. He had a photo of a fancy golf club that he wanted to join in his car, to motivate him.

It was a bizarre cult even back then, pre internet. It’s scary to think of the power pyramid schemes have now.

Edited

Omg Amway, the thing that makes me laugh over the years all the houses I've ever visited or been in ,have you ever once seen an amway product? ..no!!
When I was a teenager, someone in our village tried to get my parents to sign up to amway, it was all secretive, they couldn't disclose over the phone ,had to come to our house...my mum soon gave her short shrift!!

Fayaway · 26/10/2025 14:55

BerryTwister · 26/10/2025 10:25

I briefly went out with a man who did the Amway pyramid scheme, many years ago. He didn’t try to recruit me for some reason, but he told me the “tricks of the trade” he had for recruiting people, and it was so devious.

He had a proper job as a sales rep for hospital equipment, so he’d regularly go to hospital canteens for food. He was very attractive and personable, and he’d chat to the staff at the till, saying things like “busy day isn’t it. You lot work so hard here don’t you, I bet you wish there was an easier way to make money. If I hear of anything I’ll let you know”. Then he’d go back a few times and gradually reel them in.

He also tracked down old school friends and acquaintances and called them, claiming he was working in their area, and wanting to meet to catch up, then he’d try and recruit them.

He showed me some of the sales material he had. Audio recordings telling him he was amazing and special and deserved good things. He was encouraged to visualise the things he wanted and display photos of his aims. He had a photo of a fancy golf club that he wanted to join in his car, to motivate him.

It was a bizarre cult even back then, pre internet. It’s scary to think of the power pyramid schemes have now.

Edited

I’ve just remembered, a couple of years ago, a woman started chatting to me in the department store I was working in. It was that sort of atmosphere - not fast-moving, more personal. She started telling me how she had been very successful in life, seemed to think I was “too good for this” and why didn’t I want better for my children? 🙄 I was trying to be polite and diplomatic but she pushed and pushed for my phone number. I ended up accepting her business card (not giving my number out) and told the floor manager she was using the good nature of staff to tout for business.

strawgoh · 26/10/2025 15:48

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 26/10/2025 11:44

All the MLMs I've come across absolutely do have a product but that's not what you make the money from

Which ones don't have any product or service at all?

Amway products I understand are actually pretty good, or at least they used to be

The ones which don't have a physical product are the pyramid schemes, which have been illegal for some years now, and the ones offering a so-called service - usually ones which you have to pay for a training programme. The training programme basically teaches you how marvellous it all is, and how to sell the training programme to your 'downline' and when they pay for it, you earn commission. Then your downline does the training and sells the same thing to the next lot of suckers, ad infinitum.

TwinklyStork · 26/10/2025 15:50

Namechabgeforthissss · 26/10/2025 09:19

Thank you for the name, What does that mean pls?

Do you not know how to use Google?

Neverflyingagain · 26/10/2025 16:05

aLFIESMA · 26/10/2025 11:46

Is there not an episode of This Country where Kerry Mucklow becomes a Juice boss lady Grin

Not sure about that but there's an episode of Schitts creek where Moira sets up an AlleVous makeup one and it turns out the entire town already signed up and sold to one another...

Hoppinggreen · 26/10/2025 16:28

Steeleydan · 26/10/2025 14:38

Omg Amway, the thing that makes me laugh over the years all the houses I've ever visited or been in ,have you ever once seen an amway product? ..no!!
When I was a teenager, someone in our village tried to get my parents to sign up to amway, it was all secretive, they couldn't disclose over the phone ,had to come to our house...my mum soon gave her short shrift!!

I worked for a Business in the 90's that was not far from an RAF Base and a few wives worked with me. Amway went through the Base like Wildfire and caused all sorts of issues

YouOKHun · 26/10/2025 20:24

This article is a few years old but still relevant. In fact for anyone wanting information on MLM the articles on the website linked are very useful. Someone upthread mentioned Which? Magazine endorsement of UW based on Which’s consumer survey results. Whenever the consumers are also the sellers the chances of getting falsely positive results is very high. Which? Magazine has acknowledged this problem. The real feedback for UW is pretty awful as you’d expect when the way UW is sold is rife with Miss-selling and misleading tactics are encouraged. https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/is-which-wrong-to-recommend-mlm-utility-warehouse-is-it-really-a-good-energy-provider/

Is Which? wrong to recommend MLM Utility Warehouse? Is it really a good energy provider? - Talented Ladies Club

Find out whether consumer champion Which? is wrong to recommend MLM Utility Warehouse, and whether the company is a good energy provider.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/is-which-wrong-to-recommend-mlm-utility-warehouse-is-it-really-a-good-energy-provider/

Arregaithel · 26/10/2025 21:34

@RampantIvy

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Will depend on the tactics of @Namechabgeforthissss's "friend" if they are prepared to pressurise her so the "friend" can earn their £300

edited to clarify

Freebus · 27/10/2025 10:49

Steeleydan · 26/10/2025 14:38

Omg Amway, the thing that makes me laugh over the years all the houses I've ever visited or been in ,have you ever once seen an amway product? ..no!!
When I was a teenager, someone in our village tried to get my parents to sign up to amway, it was all secretive, they couldn't disclose over the phone ,had to come to our house...my mum soon gave her short shrift!!

Yep it was Amway that I was referring to upthread. I'd forgotten the name of it.
Agree it was all very weird and cult like the way it was presented.

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