Woke / Bigot / Snowflake / Gammon / Racist / Karen etc

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The polarisation of our society does no good for anyone and these terms are thrown around in the media and have become part of everyday conversation.

We need to think about the damage done when describing people a way which encourages tribalism and division.

You can make your point without these labels. We need to be able to agree to disagree again.

Language matters.

If you care about the climate you part of the wokerati.
If you don’t think humans can change sex you are a bigot.
If you are concerned about immigration you are a racist.
If you object to something you think is rude you are a pearl clutcher.
If something offends you which someone else decides is not offensive enough you are a snowflake.
If you are a woman who stands up for almost anything you are a Karen.

At the risk of coming over a bit John Lennon can we just fucking stop it?

Couldn’t agree more, OP.

I will call a Racist a Racist (not openly on MN though in case I get banned)

I broadly agree about tribalism, although I feel you are misrepresenting a lot of these situations.

On the odd occasion that I do observe someone online talking about immigration in a balanced way and expressing genuine concerns, seeking an open dialogue etc, I have never seen them met with calls of "racist!". It's not people who are "concerned about immigration" who are being called racist. It's the people who talk about "taking Britain back", promote fat right talking points and with faux-naivety claim to care about women and children, therefore insinuating that immigrants are sex offenders, whilst saying nothing of the vast majority of actual sex offenders and violent offenders who are white British men. Calling out obvious racism is not a bad thing and never will be.

Agree but not about the word "racist". It's not in the same category as those others. Unless you want to add "sexist, misogynist, antisemite, ableist, ageist, etc" to the list too, then we can agree. That's where it belongs.

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You’ve lost your argument by putting racist in the same category I’m afraid.

I call racist people racist. I'm not going to stop doing that. I am anti-racist.

You lost me at racist. There is never any excuse for racism and I will merrily use that term to call out racists.
People worried about immigration levels not racist. People worried out immigration because they don't like people that aren't white. Racist.

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but name calling like snowflake and gammon I agree with you

I have my views and standby them people can call me what they like, if the only argument people have is throwing a label around shows more about them than me

All we can do is stand up what we beleive in

Agreed. I despise being called woke online. If you met me in person, you’d never call me that as I don’t fit the look 🤣

So you won’t call a racist a racist then 🤣

Gammon???

Agree with others that racist is not in the same category as the other terms but otherwise yes, OP, the endless name calling just undermines actual debate or nuance.

Society is “dumbing down”, so everything is being reduced to one word. We have lost nuance. I agree with you OP overall, but I don’t think I have met anyone who is “concerned about immigration” and is not also letting racist propaganda influence their concern.

I don’t mean that racist is never a correct term but that it now frequently is thrown about and misused.

Some people are racists and bigots though.

Used to mock people. A reference to white people getting red in the face when disagreeing with someone

I agree OP and also by people doubling down on the racist point this is a gift to the likes of Farage, if you genuinely think being concerned about immigration (meaning small boats etc) is racist.

You've undermined your argument by including the word "racist".

Racism is real and it absolutely should be called out.

"Racist" is not an empty term of abuse.

Ah thanks for the explanation

Nobody thinks that being concerned about immigration is racist.

We do think that people are being racist when they say or do racist things.

HTH

Do please enlighten us on the correct definition of racism, then.

I will but in a way that does not break MN Guidelines - there are ways
That only applies to MN, I don't live my life in general by MN Guidelines
Maybe I should?

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