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To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/10/2025 22:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

Police have launched a manhunt after a former asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl was mistakenly released from prison.
Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu, who arrived in the UK on a small boat, was jailed for 12 months over the attack in Epping, Essex, last month.

Custody shot of Hadush Kebatu

Manhunt for asylum seeker jailed for sexual assault mistakenly released

Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu sparked nationwide protests after sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

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CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:32

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:09

The easy solution is to withdraw benefits..
Basically even if granted asylum,they can't claim anything..no housing ,no money ,no disability benefits
And stop using hotel and houses and having them roam the streets,but use old army barracks or disused prisons ,..there's a floating ship that the army used ,but yet it's not good enough for asylum seekers
So stay and build life here if you can support yourself.. but no financial help will be offered.
I expect boat crossings with stop immediately

And when this means young children living on the streets? What then?

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:34

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:30

Pontins is empty these days.

But exactly. No money given zero. No hotels with three meals a day.

Ex military bases not good enough for them but good enough for military. Pfft.

If you want to willingly come here support yourself. NHS included in that stance.

If they are refugees then be definition they are here because they are in fear of their lives. I'm not sure it's much of a choice.

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:39

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:34

If they are refugees then be definition they are here because they are in fear of their lives. I'm not sure it's much of a choice.

It’s a choice to and in a way a privilege to country hop deciding which one is the best one to try and claim asylum in. Only those with money get to pay the people smugglers after all.

Those who are poor and in fear stand no chance.

Again mainly men as well. I’d support bringing women and children over with support.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:42

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:32

And when this means young children living on the streets? What then?

What young children
They are all men ..
I think there was one child at one point , getting dragged across from France ...a safe country

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:42

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:34

If they are refugees then be definition they are here because they are in fear of their lives. I'm not sure it's much of a choice.

Give over
They are coming from France
Definitely not in danger for their life

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:45

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:42

What young children
They are all men ..
I think there was one child at one point , getting dragged across from France ...a safe country

Simply untrue

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:46

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:42

Give over
They are coming from France
Definitely not in danger for their life

Anyone can claim asylum in any country they want. The vast majority go to the neighbouring country. They are not obligated to stay in France.

TwistyTurnip · 25/10/2025 15:46

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:42

Give over
They are coming from France
Definitely not in danger for their life

Exactly. They are in France - a safe country. Then they make the decision to risk their lives coming to the UK via boat across the English Channel. There must be a pretty strong incentive for them to take such risks.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:48

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:45

Simply untrue

What planet are you on
Come on ..they are 99% young men
No granny's or grandad ,no mums aunties sister niece
All females left behind
No disabled ,no injured
All left behind in a supposedly unsafe country they originated from.
Not safe for these fighting age men to stay ..yet safe for everyone else not strong enough to make the journey
Come on ,make it make sense

taxguru · 25/10/2025 15:49

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 15:34

If they are refugees then be definition they are here because they are in fear of their lives. I'm not sure it's much of a choice.

They CLAIM they're in fear of their lives. There's a big difference between reality and what they claim.

taxguru · 25/10/2025 15:50

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:48

What planet are you on
Come on ..they are 99% young men
No granny's or grandad ,no mums aunties sister niece
All females left behind
No disabled ,no injured
All left behind in a supposedly unsafe country they originated from.
Not safe for these fighting age men to stay ..yet safe for everyone else not strong enough to make the journey
Come on ,make it make sense

Nail on the head. If it was so unsafe where they've come from, they wouldn't have left their children and female relatives behind.

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:50

taxguru · 25/10/2025 15:49

They CLAIM they're in fear of their lives. There's a big difference between reality and what they claim.

Especially when so many go home for holidays once given status.

suburburban · 25/10/2025 15:52

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:09

The easy solution is to withdraw benefits..
Basically even if granted asylum,they can't claim anything..no housing ,no money ,no disability benefits
And stop using hotel and houses and having them roam the streets,but use old army barracks or disused prisons ,..there's a floating ship that the army used ,but yet it's not good enough for asylum seekers
So stay and build life here if you can support yourself.. but no financial help will be offered.
I expect boat crossings with stop immediately

Yes I wish this would happen

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/10/2025 15:52

OonaStubbs · 25/10/2025 13:05

Why don't Labour just smash the gangs?

Why didn’t donkey’s years of conservative governments do that?

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 15:53

EasternStandard · 25/10/2025 15:26

Who will get over that?

No one. but labour will have parties that will join with them. No one will join with reform it’s a dead party.Farage is the right wing equivalent of Corbyn all talk no trousers.

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:54

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 15:53

No one. but labour will have parties that will join with them. No one will join with reform it’s a dead party.Farage is the right wing equivalent of Corbyn all talk no trousers.

And nobody thought Brexit would win but here we are expect the unexpected when people are fed up and scared.

TwistyTurnip · 25/10/2025 15:55

OonaStubbs · 25/10/2025 13:05

Why don't Labour just smash the gangs?

That was just another promise they made in their election manifesto that they’ve failed to deliver on. Same as their promise not increase taxes on working people 🤡🤡🤡

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:55

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 15:53

No one. but labour will have parties that will join with them. No one will join with reform it’s a dead party.Farage is the right wing equivalent of Corbyn all talk no trousers.

I don't know
I wouldn't be surprised if reform and conservatives joined ..they ould balance each other out a bit

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:56

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:55

I don't know
I wouldn't be surprised if reform and conservatives joined ..they ould balance each other out a bit

Considering a lot of defectors are tories it would be easy to see them pair up.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:59

BettysRoasties · 25/10/2025 15:56

Considering a lot of defectors are tories it would be easy to see them pair up.

And I'm not convinced Nigel wants the responsibility of PM
I think he just likes the drama ,this way it lets him of the hook a bit

EasternStandard · 25/10/2025 16:01

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 15:53

No one. but labour will have parties that will join with them. No one will join with reform it’s a dead party.Farage is the right wing equivalent of Corbyn all talk no trousers.

What like smash the gangs and no tax rises?

Figmentofmyimagination · 25/10/2025 16:04

A party like reform might do well in a referendum, but hopefully there are enough parliamentary constituencies still left with a balance of sane constituents to keep them away from government. Otherwise we have bigger worries on our hands than just the rise of Nigel farage and his supporters.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 16:09

Figmentofmyimagination · 25/10/2025 16:04

A party like reform might do well in a referendum, but hopefully there are enough parliamentary constituencies still left with a balance of sane constituents to keep them away from government. Otherwise we have bigger worries on our hands than just the rise of Nigel farage and his supporters.

You must admit , conservatives were lacking when in power and labour are not really doing much better .

Do you not think if reform joined with conservatives,
That conservatives would get a kick up the bum to be more decisive,but not let reform get away with to much to far ..
It might mean conservatives stop reform from ending the NHS ,and reform might get conservatives to be a bit more decisive on immigration .
I actually think this would be a good compromise for next election

spoonbillstretford · 25/10/2025 16:18

MauveLibrary · 25/10/2025 12:48

Yes and honestly I can see why Reform will win the next election as people are so angry and have had enough of being lied to and ignored

Bit fucking late isn't it. Where was the anger at the financial crash in 2008 and bailing out bankers, and everyone's salaries or the total shambles that was Brexit (brough about by Farage) or the state secondary education system after Gove, or the total shambles which is the NHS after 14 years of Tories, or how much public money was wasted in Covid on corruption, or the energy prices going up 100% in a year, or legal immigration going up exponentially every year in 2021-24, or the number of boat people going up every year massively since 2016-24? While all the time the money flows upwards to the sort of uber wealthy plutocrats who back Farage?

I'm glad some people have finally been woken up out of their political apathy but you are now being totally manipulated by right wing journalists who are bored nepobaby cunts who think political and social instability is a bit of a laugh and makes better copy than boring old political stability and slow change. And they never report on anything remotely positive. There are always positive stories, it's not all hatred and fear. They talk the country down when we are still capable of so much, in spite of everything.

There is much to be angry about but immigrants are largely the wrong target or only one small element of what needs sorting out in this country. If you think it's bad now, Farage will drive the country into deep economic depression and probable civil war that will take a generation or more to sort out.

Too right I'm angry, I'm angry about what has happened, what is happening and what is going to be allowed to happen in a few years, the way things are going. Reform are not the answer. Political protest, sure. But end stage unfettered capitalism is the enemy.

Engage with government and tell them what you want. Demonstrate for work to pay and decent public services, for investment in local infrastructure and for cheaper housing. To get good medical care when you need it. For your kids to be able to reach their potential at school.

Farage isn't interested in any of that. He is a racist and fascist and wants race and class war. Divide and rule so his rich mates can get away with their offshore tax arrangements and betting on economy failing. Keep the money flowing upwards. A pleb class and patricians and nothing in between. He lied in 2016 and for many years before that. Don't fall for it.

LakieLady · 25/10/2025 16:19

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:03

Why are they allowed to refuse them,when that is where they came from .
France is safe .they can make a life there .
Just less niceties than UK

If we were still in the EU, the UK would have the right to return asylum seekers to the first safe EU country they arrived at, under the Dublin III regulation. We threw away that right.

I know coincidence doesn't prove causation, but I suspect that may be part of the reason why small boat arrivals weren't really much of a thing pre-Brexit.