To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

What are you talking about? Point out where I've said this happens?

Can you point me to any studies showing this? It would be helpful for my job (most of the perpetrators I come across are using cocaine and it does seem linked to their perpetrating behaviour).

No, her infertility is not from drugs. That is not something you can measure.

and yes, you sound unbelievably bitter and unhappy.

Why do people do ketamine knowing the bladder damage risks? I assume with cocaine if you stop slowly slowly your body goes back to normal

Well if it is so common then only a few people left to be naive. Shame we are surrounded by losers then. I hope the twats doing it at nursery schools places get what they deserve.

You told us earlier didn’t you? Because they’re badly brought up?

Cocaine is often very normalised in certain social circles, but that doesn’t make it harmless. It’s extremely damaging to both physical and mental health, and the supply chain is riddled with exploitation and violence. I used to be around it often, and sometimes you need to remove yourself from those circles just to get a reality check. People who do it just make excuses.

If you stop instantly your body goes back to normal, as it does with ketamine if you’re not a regular user with either or an addict. They use ketamine regularly in hospital (particularly in paeds) and cocaine in dentistry so it’s not inherently dangerous, it’s the quantities and regularity they’re used that causes the issues, like alcohol, but alcohol is worse as it’s only medicated in a hospital setting if you’re an alcoholic.

Ketamine destroys your bladder do you not think it might damage other organs anyway not saying it was 100% drug related probably more just leaving it too late if anything.

I know I sound bitter on here but I think she’s the bitter one really apparently I was a waste of her tax money for having children young while she did the responsible thing and spent years getting drunk and high. I know many people that think that way. I’m happy, you don’t need drugs to be happy

Well it depends on how much cocaine you have taken, your septum won't grow back or the structure of your noise, cocaine impacts the lungs and digestive track, pretty rough on the bowels too, likewise not everyone who does ket has bladder issues.

I just looked up the ONS stats and around 18% of young adults report using drugs, 10% if you include everyone age 16-59 years. Probably doesn’t include people who denied it, though.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/drugmisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2023

I swear one of the guys who did our extension( in London) was going drugs on site. He’d go in the toilet, not even bother flushing ( because he hadn’t used it) and walk out with bloodshot eyes.

I completely agree (as a veggie animal lover!).

But the particular irony that I notice is the people I know who get on their high horses about slavery and imperialism (not good things, obvs) are happily using cocaine and failing to see the irony…just like the people they would criticise in the past.

Ideally one should neither use illegal drugs nor be a teen parent. Neither of you ought to be lecturing. And gloating about infertility is awful, please stop.

I’m not gloating. I’m just saying people have a lot to say about teen parents being irresponsible and wasting their lives while they spend their 20s taking drugs. While teen parents focus on their families

Well good on me that I've never taken it. Glad my DS has been scared to take these. He told me at uni he saw so many people doing bumps/lines/pills but he thankfully resisted the temptation

@Samsonsund , if someone had slagged me off for having a baby at 16 (and going on to be a responsible adult) while wrecking their finances/nose/life with cocaine etc, I wouldn't be fond of them either.

I’m just into my 40s and had a number of male associates from university days who liked the nose beers. I know no less than 4 men who were fit, happy, great careers who have keeled over from heart attacks leaving young families behind.

I now assume most male heart attacks in 30s and 40s are down to historic coke use.

NOT defending cocaine use or pro cocaine in any way but I find your perspective really interesting, can I ask if how you feel it compares in these terms to alcohol use? Obviously not in terms of county lines and dealing etc., but in terms of crimes committed by those under the influence of.

Not everyone in their 20's take cocaine, neither will all teenage parents focus on their family.

This is straight up incorrect.

Last year The Guardian did a series, Bloodlines, on the cocaine trade and associated crime. It makes sobering reading, I'd hope particularly for anyone who likes a recreational toot.

A particularly brutal read many more in the series if you have the stomach for it.

Beaten and tortured: the north African children paying a bloody price for Europe’s insatiable appetite for cocaine https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactive/2024/jun/11/north-african-children-beaten-tortured-europe-cocaine-gangs?CMP=share_btn_url

In all honesty is it possible to use drugs "responsibly". Like how one can drink responsibly?

In my 20s I used to go to a popular music festival. I never understood how 90% of people I was with could stay up all night where as I was done by 11pm after walking 30,000 steps!