To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

So very sad that there are so many people naively playing Russian roulette with their mental stability.

Once it's gone, it's gone.

Birds of a feather flock together. People that don’t do it tend to keep their distance.

Yeah, my brother in law's old friend apparently sold his parents white goods, TV etc whilst they were on holiday to pay for his coke habit (he then claimed the house was broken into) he apparently had an excellent job but he was no longer able to function without it, had run up debts and obviously did whatever it took to pay for his habit. It can definitely be just as addictive as any other drug can be.

What part sounds like bollocks? People calling me a loser for having kids young or that people wasted their lives and money on drugs?

It’s not decades later for me I’m only in my mid twenties, person who said that is in their 30s though. she admitted she had an abortion at 16 that she regretted after she found out she was infertile years later. Even though said person was quite rude about me behind my back when we first met for having a baby at 16

A lot of people think it’s a waste of a life to have children young because you miss out on partying when not everyone’s idea of fun is getting drunk and high anyway

That she knows her fertility has been ruined by drugs

You just sound really fixated on having had a child at 16 and the people who disapproved of that. Who cares?

I have met people who have lost their job, family and home.
It's very sad when elderly parents are forced to borrow, sell their home, to save adult DC.
My Dbro has a building company, he often meets investors too, he said cocaine is hard to avoid in the business from the top tables to the site sweepers.
It's the new "do you smoke" 🚬 "do you sniff"

I think it's part of the human condition to ignore things for convenience - it's just a question of what bothers you personally.

People who love animals still eat meat, people who care so much about the environment and hate cyclists, people who care about exploitation of children shop in fast fashion stores and online , doctors and nurses who smoke cigarettes, the list is neverending.

I think it's you who are naive to suggest cocaine doesn't link to problematic behaviour.

Much of the alcohol related DV / pub violence is linked to and in many cases exacerbated by cocaine taken with alcohol.

Sorry should of been more clear she doesn’t know why she’s infertile but she’s late thirties so probably indirectly drugs because of the mindset that you should spend your youth drinking and drugging and anyone who doesn’t is a loser.

rounds of ivf on the nhs cost millions that’s fine just ironic after talking about me behind my back being a waste of tax money

yes I probably sound bitter. I’m not though just pointing out that not “everyone “ is a secret drug addict a lot of people have genuinely never even been interested in drugs

@JurassicPark4Eva what are the signs of a user to look out for pls? The only ones I know about are sniffing lots and chatting lots of shit fast.

I suspect you’re right to link them. I’m sure cannabis is just as bad - maybe worse. I have noticed a change in my mood when taking supplements from Holland and Barret. In fact, I have chucked several different supplements in the bin because they increased my anxiety or made my insomnia worse, so wtf does cocaine and skunk cannabis do?!

I'm not minimising any of what you say, but I think what others are saying is that there's a million miles of difference between the guy who's punching walls and nutting people in the pub versus the frazzled, slightly stressed head teacher who you just assumed had just had a row with their partner/teenage child/boss .

Some people have the kind of temperament where their poor behaviour/life choices doesn't affect a wider community just people in their personal lives.

You certainly are naive regarding cocaine OP. About 3% of people in the UK use it regularly. If you’re in your twenties or early thirties and many of your friends take drugs habitually then you are just waiting to see who matures out of it and who takes damage or dies. I’ve taken various drugs when younger, including cocaine, and I would be shocked and would almost certainly separate from my partner if he was regularly using cocaine now that we are older and have a family. I am not shocked to discover that various people I know have or haven’t tried various drugs. I would be shocked if any of my friends took it up again in their 40s (perhaps beyond a one off at a festival type scenario, which I would not think a good move but is still very different to the kind of situation people post about).

Only people on Mumsnet, most other people know at least one person that does it, I don’t btw, I find it too expensive!

Are you still in law enforcement! (Police!?)

if you are how could your BIL & SIL justify putting you in that position? Even if you aren't, how could they justify it in YOUR local??

Did you say anything at the time??.

It isn't whataboutery. Companies cannot decide that some modern day slavery matters and others don't, especially when some of us are only in the UK, or rather our G/parents had to come here because of the poverty and modern day slavery inflicted on them, by England. Influcted poverty in Africa might be far removed from your life, but it isn't the case for all of us.

I know it is common. I see the affect it has on children in the school where I work. They get pulled into county lines, fry their brains to the point they can't do any work in lessons and generally have their lives destroyed.

Yay recreational drugs.

Huge pupils.

So you're the 'cool' neighbour who lets her DH & son do drugs at yours,,, well done.
🙄🙄🙄

You only sniff lots if you snort it. You can swallow it, rub it into your gums (if you’re not bothered about your dental health) and inject it if that way inclined. But yeah, talking fast, lots of energy , very focused and dilated pupils. But the full effects only lasts about 10- 20 minutes.

I agree almost everyone I know uses cocaine to varying degrees. Some very occasionally once a year etc. Some habitual and have a problem (although not obvious to anyone ) and I have a very wide circle of different age groups, careers.

So many people coming out of the toilets together in bars holding the queue up . Very obviously sniffing

It is common in DP's social group, but not mine, because our social backgrounds are very different. He's a tradesman, I'm educated & my friends are mainly professionals. I've seen a clear social gradient to its use. Many of his friends use it and several have had their lives blown apart by it. The number of relationships destroyed after one partner gets into coke is notable. Amongst my friends, I know a few occasional users but none from the very ambitious / very successful group.

I think this is less class related more trade related. The building trade is, and has for a very, very long time been, swimming in illegal drugs.

My background is in health research and there is clear evidence that regular cocaine use is associated with increased aggression in men.

So glad I don't voluntarily ingest harmful substances to feel high.