To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

This is such a depressing read (hence the name) :(

Plenty of drug experts here not questioning that.

We know about it, but are we happy about it?

It seems like the western world, and the rest, are on a slippery slope to a very dark and dystopian future..

My company recently introduced mandatory drug testing.

So far 25 employees (out of about 400) have been either sacked or suspended because they failed the test. Not all of them failed for cocaine, but it was the majority. Some of them, I wasn't particularly surprised. Some of them, I was. And these were employees at all levels of responsibility/seniority. It really is quite rife!

OK, you're officially full of shit. This is my day job. I speak from lengthy personal experience of seizing the evidence from the dealers, users, runners and enablers.

So you're a police officer? Then no, you don't know. That's why authorities are so far behind keeping up with it

Crack cocaine? Its not heroin.

I can't with you anymore.

Ah that was a mistake
.processed cocaine.

Ive said this several times in the thread.

Good. You should be getting more informed about your "job".

Really? Why on earth would an employer have any say in what people do on a Friday night if they’re fit for work on Monday?

Well I'd also be absolutely floored if I discovered my dp was using coke. It would mean he wasn't the man I thought he was. But I'm not naive to the fact that many people do use it socially. To them, it's just a routine part of the weekend, like having drinks is.

Not in my circle sounds a lot like my Nigel would never cheat/look at porn.
You can only ever be 100% certain of your own thoughts and actions.

Shall we carry on arguing about who knows most about drugs? Because that is so fun..

To the winner, a drug Lord honourary medal

You sound exactly like my ex. It's naive of you to think everyone takes coke and they don't change and have no consequences.

The change in the brain is slow and insiduous, but it is real. Coke slowly but surely makes people selfish, spiky, short tempered and short sighted.

My ex died at age 41. Two of his friends have died young too.

Vices lead to more vices. An unhealthy lifestyle kills you.

I'm very firmly in the naive category. And if it was legal I'd defo be an abolitionist! I was shocked to learn from my DS yesterday that 'recreational drugs' gets a mention in the GCSE PE curriculum among the 'lifestyle choices' one can make, such as nutrition and work life balance. If that's not normalising it, I don't know what is. No- drugs is a way for people to make money out of other peoples misery, like gambling. If that's me putting myself in the naive box, well I'm happy in there!

I can imagine it has a much bigger effect on people's ability to afford the deposit on a house than avocado toast and Netflix. Interesting that the snooty media/political commentators who were regularly blaming the latter a while back didn't mention other ways to pour a few hundred down the drain. I wonder why?

people are naive, yes, but the naivety may be telling you that it is not as common as you think it is.

I think some of us must give off some sort of vibes which tell others not to talk about drugs and certainly not to offer them!

I guess if cocaine makes people arrogant and high energy, I'd just avoid them anyway. I do know one person who has taken cocaine and his life is utter chaos so I very much keep him at arm's length. I'm scared of the type of people who are involved in drug dealing and I want no connection to them. They can live in their chaotic, seedy world and I'll live in my nice cosy world. What's wrong with a cup of tea and a bar of chocolate?

I don't think saying you're anti cocaine is being naive. Someone who doesn't agree with drugs isn't going to suddenly start condoning it just because it's popular.

Of course if you hang around pubs/bars/clubs you'll see a lot of people doing it. But plenty of people don't like socialising in those environments. Maybe partly because being around a load of coked up people blabbering on is intensely boring. They might not realise it's the coke making people annoying, but they know it's not fun for them.

You say that people who use heroin all act a certain way, but those who do coke don't? I think you're being naive if you think you could tell by looking at someone if they had an opiate addiction.

No offense, but this post makes me so glad that I am a millennial and not GenZ. Mock jury trials? Golf? No drink or drugs! Sounds deadly to me, but different times, different mores.

I'm curious to ask those who do use drugs (such as cocaine). Do you ever think about the people who are exploited so you can have your fun?

Organised crime is behind the flow of illegal and illicit drugs into the UK (and of course worldwide). And they do not stop at drugs - weapons and people are also part of the activity. Terrorism has also been funded this way.

When you buy your recreational fun, you are directly putting money into the hands of organised criminals.

DH & I had adversity growing up. So have my DC. None have turned to drugs. I'd have no idea where to buy heroin.

Because companies should take a moral and ethical stance on things like modern slavery. Because employers can and should set behaviour expectations for their staff which can extend to behaviours out of work. I wouldn’t want to work somewhere that turned a blind eye to anything that happened outside 9-5. Would you?

Because you are not really fit for work in certain jobs if you are a drug user.

I've been there. It's tough. DEAROP."Know-it-all".

That’s a very naive and narrow minded take on drug taking.

A multitude of factors can be involved.

Thank yourself very lucky and stop being so smug.