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Jugjug · 17/10/2025 14:29

I’ll preface by saying I don’t judge people with overweight children in the street because I don’t know their story or if the child has health conditions or has to take medication which causes weight gain.
I also don’t judge people who give their kids the occasional treat obviously.
I also don’t judge people with overweight older children/teenagers because I remember being that age and inhaling sweets my friends brought to school.

Now thats been said I know a few parents with visibly morbidly obese toddlers and the parents make no effort to sort it out and hand them family size bags of sweets as a snack!
Surely there must be something psychologically deeper going on here munchausens maybe? I just don’t get it

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WearyAuldWumman · 18/10/2025 13:48

BeFancyOtter · 18/10/2025 12:16

obesity correlates strongly with lower socio-economic status in the UK but there are also some cultural factors. Adult obesity rates took off the UK in the 90's and obese mums generally = obese children. There's some interesting research ideas in epigenetics where lifestyle or environmental factors have "switched on" the genes that may contribute. There are most definitely parents whose kids are fed an obesogenic diet and who sit on screen all days but battling the weight is becoming more of a problem amongst all socio-economic levels as our perception of "normal,healty weight" has changed so much.

It's certainly the case that by the time I retired from teaching (secondary) I saw more and more obviously obese teenagers in classes.

Of course, sizing has changed as well. I still have a UK size 14 dress in my wardrobe, purchased in 1977. Nowadays, it would be deemed a size 12, I think.

I recall having my waist measured for a school skirt. 26 inches, and that was a size 14 in 1974.

Now that I'm retired, I go to the gym most weekdays and I am seeing bigger teenage boys going there to work out. (Also some bigger women and men.) I'd say that there's a great deal of positivity at the gym - all body types are working on fitness goals. Most of us oldies are there in an attempt to stay mobile.

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 14:04

Loving the judgrment on this thread. Any excuse to call a parent a shit parent.

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 14:09

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 14:04

Loving the judgrment on this thread. Any excuse to call a parent a shit parent.

Why do you think there are more overweight kids?

OutingHobbiesAgain · 18/10/2025 14:14

BauhausOfEliott · 17/10/2025 15:13

I think in most cases it's just ignorance/lack of care. But I think there are very occasionally cases where a parent is overfeeding a child because of their own psychological issues around food. Sometimes I do think they're doing it for attention, but more often I definitely think that sometimes a parent associates constant feeding with showing affection/love, and sometimes it's actually a means of controlling/infantilising the child.

I saw a documentary years ago where a boy of about 10 was extremely overweight, and it was very obvious that the mother was basically just obsessed with stuffing her son with food. She didn't necessarily give him sweets all the time, she just literally offered him substantial things to eat about every hour or so and then lied to the paediatrician about what he was eating - eg he'd come from school and she'd give him some cheese and crackers and a smoothie, then an hour later she'd offer him a big bowl of Weetabix topped with bananas and strawberries, then an hour later he'd have a normal dinner, followed by a yogurt, a piece of fruit and some biscuits, and then before bed she'd give him a plate of toast. The things she was giving him weren't actually particularly unhealthy, but she just gave him food constantly, basically. She also bought him a wheelchair that he didn't need because he was 'getting out of breath' and didn't tell the paediatrician about that, either.

He didn't ask for any of the food she gave him - she was constantly offering and he'd just say yes every time.

I think I might have seen the same programme. What struck me was that the mum genuinely couldn’t understand how her child could be obese if he was eating ‘healthy’ food. She was giving him Weetabix and strawberries and not junk food so she could not make the link at all.

CountFucula · 18/10/2025 14:19

This is why I struggle with the body positivity movement. Human beings are more than their body and women in particular are judged on their looks from birth pretty much. But, overweight children - obese children- are an issue in the UK and it does no one any favours to pretend it’s ok.

Locutus2000 · 18/10/2025 14:27

What a nasty fucking thread. Have fun

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 14:32

Locutus2000 · 18/10/2025 14:27

What a nasty fucking thread. Have fun

In what way is it nasty? Explain.

Neemie · 18/10/2025 14:37

I think a lot of people are incredibly sedentary. Children need, and are capable of doing, a vast amount of exercise.

sexlesshusbandwoes · 18/10/2025 14:40

It’s always people in a very privileged blinkered position who do the tilty headed ‘it’s actually cheaper to eat healthy food’ when they’ve never had to be in the position to keep everyone fed with some oven chips or keep everyone full for ten minutes with a bag of apples

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 14:47

sexlesshusbandwoes · 18/10/2025 14:40

It’s always people in a very privileged blinkered position who do the tilty headed ‘it’s actually cheaper to eat healthy food’ when they’ve never had to be in the position to keep everyone fed with some oven chips or keep everyone full for ten minutes with a bag of apples

So, I can see where this is a problem. Parents feed their kids shit food cos it's easier. But the fact that there are so many obese people in the UK must be a worry. They are feeding them shit food all the time, not just now and again.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/10/2025 15:12

Neemie · 18/10/2025 14:37

I think a lot of people are incredibly sedentary. Children need, and are capable of doing, a vast amount of exercise.

That's certainly part of the problem. Children don't seem to be as active nowadays.

I'd say that it's always been a bit harder for girls. I recall at secondary school (in the '70s) we had a girls' playground we couldn't use because the boys had taken it over for football. We complained to staff, to no avail.

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:38

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 14:09

Why do you think there are more overweight kids?

Cost of living.

Blump2783 · 18/10/2025 15:42

Jugjug · 17/10/2025 14:43

I take neglect to be just not bothering to do the basic requirements of raising a child for whatever reason drug use or laziness.

But it seems like some of these people are ACTIVELY putting effort into making their kids big, I’m not talking a little puppy fat here I’m talking obese at age 3 or even 2. To the point the kid can’t run around with other kids I do wonder if they subconsciously want their kid completely dependent on them

There may be someone out there doing it on purpose but I doubt many. It is laziness and neglect in the situations you refer to as far as I am concerned.

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 15:44

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:38

Cost of living.

Not sure about that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to make 2 or 3 meals a day with limited snacks rather than snacks all day?

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:46

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 15:44

Not sure about that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to make 2 or 3 meals a day with limited snacks rather than snacks all day?

I don’t think parents actually feed their children smacks all day. Huge over dramatisation

Elle771 · 18/10/2025 15:48

BilingualDoggo · 17/10/2025 15:00

Morbidly obese TODDLERS? And you know a few? And they eat family size bags of sweets as a snack at aged 2?

I don’t think I’ve ever known a morbidly obese toddler. I’ve known kids who are a bit chubby as toddlers but they were usually normal weight by 5 ish. Then I’ve known kids who have continued to put on too much weight and are probably obese by 7 ish.

I was just thinking this... cant think of a single one at DCs nursery and dont recall noticing it in any under 4s we tend to see at various places

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 15:48

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:46

I don’t think parents actually feed their children smacks all day. Huge over dramatisation

Well if it's not that they are feeding their kids too much, what is it?

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:49

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 15:48

Well if it's not that they are feeding their kids too much, what is it?

Cost of living. As I said.

MagpiePi · 18/10/2025 15:51

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 14:04

Loving the judgrment on this thread. Any excuse to call a parent a shit parent.

Do you honestly think there are no shit parents?

AutumnTimePolice · 18/10/2025 15:51

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 14:04

Loving the judgrment on this thread. Any excuse to call a parent a shit parent.

I’m sorry but if you have an obese child (with no medical conditions) then yes you’re a shit parent. There’s no need. Do something about it, you’re literally shortening their life.

Terrribletwos · 18/10/2025 15:52

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:49

Cost of living. As I said.

I don't understand. How can col mean that your kids overeat?

AutumnTimePolice · 18/10/2025 15:54

sexlesshusbandwoes · 18/10/2025 14:40

It’s always people in a very privileged blinkered position who do the tilty headed ‘it’s actually cheaper to eat healthy food’ when they’ve never had to be in the position to keep everyone fed with some oven chips or keep everyone full for ten minutes with a bag of apples

This argument doesn’t work. Oven chips are not going to cause obesity nor is eating pizza and chicken nuggets. It’s OVEREATING that’s is causing obesity. Calories are calories whether they come from chips or apples.

AngelinaFibres · 18/10/2025 15:55

Jugjug · 17/10/2025 14:37

Who doesn’t know that eating excessive amounts of sweets and cakes will make anyone fat especially when you can see with your own eyes how big your kid is? I mean I was only 16 when I had my first child I can’t believe these parents in their 20s 30s or even 40s are that ignorant.

I genuinely wonder if there’s a deeper psychological problem going on

You never , ever see a fat child with slim parents. If a child is fat then the whole family, including granny and grandad will be fat .

AutumnTimePolice · 18/10/2025 15:58

AngelinaFibres · 18/10/2025 15:55

You never , ever see a fat child with slim parents. If a child is fat then the whole family, including granny and grandad will be fat .

Tbf I know some fat kids with skinny mothers. They’re the instagram type of mother who focuses solely on herself and her looks whilst giving little Johnny a share bag of crisps and an iPad to shut him up.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/10/2025 15:58

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:46

I don’t think parents actually feed their children smacks all day. Huge over dramatisation

There are some who do this - a tiny minority.

The school where I worked latterly had a free breakfast club. We'd have some kids who didn't use the breakfast club, but would walk to school whilst eating a pie from the baker's as their breakfast, together with a fizzy drink.

I am aware that there were issues with (usually) mothers living in temporary accommodation where they didn't have proper cooking facilities, but that wasn't the case with those I mentioned above.