To find salary offered an insult?

[Willowtree5]

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

take it, don't take it but stop with the "insulted" flouncing.

@Willowtree5
Wow.
I'm a hospital ward Sister.
I am responsible for managing the care of 26 critically ill patients and a team of 20 staff of mixed skill levels, some of whom need huge levels of supervision to ensure high standards of care.
I am paid a salary of £47,810. London.
I would be crying with gratitude to be earning your current salary, let alone your proposed one.
What job do you do?

😂

How much trouble are these 3 people going to be?!

I’d be more worried about the tax and actual take home pay.

Something far more important than saving lives or caring for the sick, doubtless. And hell slap it into ye for not negotiating a better deal out of the bountiful fields of plenty that is the NHS.

That would also be my concern.

i wouldn’t find the uplift “insulting” though. My mate got a 50p ph uplift about 12 years ago for taking on supervisory responsibilities in her role.

I manage people of half of your current salary, but it hugely depends on the sector. I voted AIBU but appreciate the increase can be seen as an insult in your field of work

Which isn't far off what OP would be getting after tax per managed person.

This I had a year or so in this bracket now through it so much better.

It's £2.80 ph extra after tax.

no one can manage 150 people effectively. I suspect he had direct reports.

Nor I. Not because of the responsibility but the timing. You're on your own with young children. You don't need more on your plate just now.

In which case, I’d only do it if there was a clear hell out of dodge progression route. 🙂

I’ll tell my mate she’s in the wrong line of business. 😀

You don't say your household income, but if it's around 90k ish split Iver 2 salaries then you're probably taking home more or the same as OP on a single salary of 105k. Plus you can claim child benefit which she won't be able to.

I have 6 direct reports on £160,000 if relevant.

You need to look at the salaries of your colleagues who are on that level of responsibility. There will be bands and you can't expect more than others with more responsibility.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable personally but it’s entirely your choice!

I don’t agree with it but in the NHS the difference between a band 6 charge nurse and band 7 Ward Manager was less than £1k a year when I stepped up. The difference in responsibility was enormous. I was managing nearly 30 people.

I did get an incremental rise after 2 years but stepped back a band in a different role with no managerial responsibilities and I now earn more because I do unsocial hours for a huge amount less stress.

OP, I wouldn't find it insulting but bear in mind it's their first offer. Why don't you counter it? They can only say no.

I dont think its insulting but you will get clobbered for tax, and probably won't see much of an increase.

I'd turn it down because I hate managing people.

You’ve clearly never worked in the health service!

What a bloody ridiculous mindset.

OP, you are perfectly reasonable to say no thanks to a low ball offer after tax.
What exactly is the net gain, versus the responsibility.
You already have huge sole responsibility in your private life, such an increase in work needs to be worth your while.
Yanbu at all.

YABU.... But only because I only know of restructures in the HEI sector whereby people have been told they're now managing X number of people (having zero reports before) with absolutely no increase in salary and staying on the same grade as others who have no LM responsibility...

Oh, and on about a third of the salary you've been offered!

Yeah this is what I don't get.

If she's so big and important that she can just 'walk' into another job if she's restructured out of this one, why has she turned to a parenting website for advice?

Embarrassing.