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Migrants required to pass A Level Standard of English

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onceuponatimeinneverland · 14/10/2025 17:18

www.gov.uk/government/news/migrants-will-be-required-to-pass-a-level-standard-of-english
Just heard this on the news. Is it me or is it totally mad? Especially when you look at the relatively poor standard of speaking, listening, reading and writing that exists already for those actually born in the UK rather than migrating in.

I'm presuming that applicants won't actually have to sit A Level English language as that would be even madder.

Or maybe its entirely sensible. I'm all for having a literal workforce.

What do other countries request I wonder (can't be fussed to actually look).

Yes I am BU - A Level standard English is the bare minimum
No you aren't BU - Its mad

Migrants will be required to pass A Level standard of English

Migrants will be required to pass tough new English language requirements under a law introduced in Parliament today.

http://www.gov.uk/government/news/migrants-will-be-required-to-pass-a-level-standard-of-english

OP posts:
Whatafustercluck · 16/10/2025 08:40

I think a good command of the English language is important for everyone. For example, it can be hard as a child to understand a teacher whose first language isn't English. But the fact remains that most of the immigrants I've encountered have a better grasp of the English language than many native speakers. I mean, The Sun's reading age is deliberately pitched to below the average UK reading ability. To expect A level standard seems a bit rich, given this context.

Whatafustercluck · 16/10/2025 08:52

I think a good command of the English language is important for everyone. For example, it can be hard as a child to understand a teacher whose first language isn't English. But the fact remains that most of the immigrants I've encountered have a better grasp of the English language than many native speakers. I mean, The Sun's reading age is deliberately pitched to below the average UK reading ability. To expect A level standard seems a bit rich, given this context.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/10/2025 21:12

Zonder · 15/10/2025 22:31

You can of course live in France for many years and never manage to speak a word of french.

Not if you want permanent residency which is the same as the indefinite leave to remain. The requirement in France is going up to B2 as well.

https://frenchconnectionshcb.com/resources/the-complete-guide-to-french-visa-and-residency-language-requirements/

It is currently B1, compared to the UK’s current, lower standard of A2

The Complete Guide to French Visa and Residency Language Requirements | French Connections HCB

Did you know that France is increasing its French Visa...

https://frenchconnectionshcb.com/resources/the-complete-guide-to-french-visa-and-residency-language-requirements/

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/10/2025 21:13

ErrolTheDragon · 16/10/2025 08:12

I’m not sure the news outlets can be blamed for the spin when that’s the wording they’ve got on the gov.uk website linked in the OP. Confused

Good point, it’s the press release by the Gov causing it.

Zonder · 18/10/2025 21:38

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/10/2025 21:12

Not if you want permanent residency which is the same as the indefinite leave to remain. The requirement in France is going up to B2 as well.

https://frenchconnectionshcb.com/resources/the-complete-guide-to-french-visa-and-residency-language-requirements/

It is currently B1, compared to the UK’s current, lower standard of A2

I'm sure we all know people who have found ways round that!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/10/2025 21:49

Zonder · 18/10/2025 21:38

I'm sure we all know people who have found ways round that!

Not to get permanent residency when coming from a country not within the EU,

Sure you can live in France on 1yr visas that you renew (and pay for) on repeat.
Or you can spend 178days a year there and the rest in the UK with no visa.

The debate is about what should be required to gain permanent residency which generally brings with it the privilege of accessing that country’s social security and benefits system if you fall on a hard times.

Zonder · 18/10/2025 22:08

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/10/2025 21:49

Not to get permanent residency when coming from a country not within the EU,

Sure you can live in France on 1yr visas that you renew (and pay for) on repeat.
Or you can spend 178days a year there and the rest in the UK with no visa.

The debate is about what should be required to gain permanent residency which generally brings with it the privilege of accessing that country’s social security and benefits system if you fall on a hard times.

Oh I'm all for people learning the language of the country they're in. I've done it twice myself. I do know people who have lived for years in other countries and can barely order a coffee.

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