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To think it is outrageous to ban women and girls over 13 from a fun run?

328 replies

Lex345 · 14/10/2025 07:32

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno

I just caught this on the news-the article isn't clear on the justification for this-but this isn't OK is it?

OP posts:
thestudio · 14/10/2025 10:57

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 14/10/2025 07:48

So many threads started about this. Is it the first year that the event has run, or is it that there are far more powerful social media currents now that give impetus to any news hook for viral outrage about something connected with Islam?

Not saying that you as an individual are fomenting outrage, OP. Just wondering about the online tides that wash numbers of such threads onto MN. Some of the posts on one of the recent threads showed such strong hostility to Islam, much stronger than would have been expressed a few years ago.

Or it could be that lots of women/mothers of girls are outraged?

Humdingerydoo · 14/10/2025 10:59

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:07

Also, why is the standard that little clothes is better than more clothes?

Are you the same poster who on a different thread the other day thought girls who dressed provocatively deserve what's coming to them?

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:59

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 10:57

Women. Period. This has already been pointed out to you but you’re too busy being really angry. Women don’t need permission to be angry about issues that negatively affect… women.

It's not for women, it's a MUSLIM charity. Nothing to do with you, if you are not a MUSLIM. And you say women don't need permission to be angry, yet, slate me for being angry.

BlakeCarrington · 14/10/2025 10:59

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:55

No? Because I have never said you can't speak freely. I only expressed my annoyance with you all, seeing as you have a habit of speaking on behalf of Muslim women when nobody asked you to.

No no, I’ve never assumed to speak on behalf of Muslim women, not my concern. However I will speak freely about the oppression of any woman in this country, regardless of their religion, and I couldn’t give a stuff what you think @Plantine.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:00

Humdingerydoo · 14/10/2025 10:59

Are you the same poster who on a different thread the other day thought girls who dressed provocatively deserve what's coming to them?

No, I would never say something like that. I haven't been on this forum for many months, until today.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:00

Humdingerydoo · 14/10/2025 10:59

Are you the same poster who on a different thread the other day thought girls who dressed provocatively deserve what's coming to them?

Seems like it!

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 14/10/2025 11:00

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:35

But why do they have to apply it consistently? Genuinely, I don't know if the law actually compels this consistency? And if so, which laws?

So you’ve waded in on a thread about something happening in the UK, that likely contravenes UK legal protections against discrimination for protected groups, but you know nothing about the actual UK Equality Act? And you’re not embarrassed to admit it? Amazing.

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 11:00

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:55

No? Because I have never said you can't speak freely. I only expressed my annoyance with you all, seeing as you have a habit of speaking on behalf of Muslim women when nobody asked you to.

We’re not and no one needs to ask us to. We’re speaking for girls and women here.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 14/10/2025 11:01

Plantine · 14/10/2025 09:26

Oh, please, get off your high horse. Your men are abandoning your children, leaving them essentially fatherless and neglected in every way possible, and you have the audacity to sit there and talk to me about gender equality, respect and tolerance? I don't live in the UK, but from where I'm standing your society is not as great and ideal as you think it is.

Thanks.
Your input is not needed then…or wanted.
Its about this country and our children’s lives going forward and what kind of a country they will inherit.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:01

BlakeCarrington · 14/10/2025 10:59

No no, I’ve never assumed to speak on behalf of Muslim women, not my concern. However I will speak freely about the oppression of any woman in this country, regardless of their religion, and I couldn’t give a stuff what you think @Plantine.

So why respond to my posts if you don't care about what I think? Leave me be, then, instead of wasting your limited time on this earth on me. You wont get this time back, you know. So, I can only assume that, for some reason, you do care about my opinions. I'm so flattered.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:02

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 14/10/2025 11:01

Thanks.
Your input is not needed then…or wanted.
Its about this country and our children’s lives going forward and what kind of a country they will inherit.

That's my entire point. This charity run is a MUSLIM one - if you are not a MUSLIM, your input is not needed.

Midnightlove · 14/10/2025 11:03

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:59

It's not for women, it's a MUSLIM charity. Nothing to do with you, if you are not a MUSLIM. And you say women don't need permission to be angry, yet, slate me for being angry.

Yes and it's in BRITAIN, where we have no desire to become a backwards third world country where woman are told what they can and can't do!

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:03

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 11:00

We’re not and no one needs to ask us to. We’re speaking for girls and women here.

Why? You are not making a difference whatsoever, you're just writing some words on an anonymous forum. How heroic.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:03

Plantine · 14/10/2025 10:59

It's not for women, it's a MUSLIM charity. Nothing to do with you, if you are not a MUSLIM. And you say women don't need permission to be angry, yet, slate me for being angry.

A charity which is excluding WOMEN. In Britain, in 2025. Doesn’t matter if other WOMEN want to personally want to participate, or sit on their arses in the comfort of their homes. We can comment on whether this breaks equality law in this country, if we want to.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:04

Midnightlove · 14/10/2025 11:03

Yes and it's in BRITAIN, where we have no desire to become a backwards third world country where woman are told what they can and can't do!

Who has told you what you can and cannot do? This is not your event, you DON'T get to decide who participates in it. Host your own event, and the choice will be yours.

SilkAndSparklesForParties · 14/10/2025 11:05

Something I don't understand, is that marriage is not exactly a thing in the Scandinavian countries and yet we in Britain are supposedly unmarried.

BlakeCarrington · 14/10/2025 11:05

I was just replying because your posts are dripping in racism and you falsely continue to state that we shouldn’t have a voice because we’re not Muslim. You deliberately miss the point. I am a WOMAN and I will not tolerate the illegal exclusion of WOMEN in Bristish society.

You’re not in the UK plus you are defending the illegal exclusion of women here, hence your views are irrelevant. HTH.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:05

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:03

A charity which is excluding WOMEN. In Britain, in 2025. Doesn’t matter if other WOMEN want to personally want to participate, or sit on their arses in the comfort of their homes. We can comment on whether this breaks equality law in this country, if we want to.

How does it break any laws, though? Is there a law that says women must participate in EVERYTHING?

BruisedNeckMeat · 14/10/2025 11:05

I am not defending the rights of Muslim
women. If they want to stand on the sidelines and cheer on their own oppression and the oppression of their female children then there’s nothing I can do about that.

I am defending the culture, values and laws of my own country.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 14/10/2025 11:05

Plantine · 14/10/2025 09:27

What, your 13 year old daughter was planning on participating in this run? Your friends' daughters had every intention of being part of this run?

It’s the symbolism.
If you tolerate this then your children will be next.
Or in this case our children.

OtterlyAstounding · 14/10/2025 11:06

Plantine is clearly arguing in bad faith, being deliberately inflammatory, and trying to derail the thread. Nothing he or she says is worth responding to, frankly. It's muddled, irrational, and taunting.

For goodness' sake, they tried to downplay and minimise the fact that Afghanistan's government has deliberately created a dystopian environment where women are legally allowed (indeed, required) to be treated no better than livestock (unless one has enough money and corrupt power to go above or around the law). That's all I need to read to know that not a word Plantine has to say is genuine or of value.

On topic: This fun run seems to quite blatantly contravene UK equality laws - I hope it's either amended to allow all people to participate, even if that be in separate male and female races, or shut down entirely.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:06

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:03

Why? You are not making a difference whatsoever, you're just writing some words on an anonymous forum. How heroic.

Why don’t you find another topic on this discussion forum (clue is in the name), that doesn’t annoy you so much?

I don’t think anyone on the Conflict in the Middle East forum has any impact on issues in the region at all, I couldn’t think of a more waste of my time than continually harking on at them about how anything that they see discussing won’t have any impact on anything whatsoever.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:06

BlakeCarrington · 14/10/2025 11:05

I was just replying because your posts are dripping in racism and you falsely continue to state that we shouldn’t have a voice because we’re not Muslim. You deliberately miss the point. I am a WOMAN and I will not tolerate the illegal exclusion of WOMEN in Bristish society.

You’re not in the UK plus you are defending the illegal exclusion of women here, hence your views are irrelevant. HTH.

How's the exlusion illegal? None of you have actually shared any laws that indicate this organisation is doing anything illegal. You're offended, which is your perogative. But that doesn't mean the organisation is doing anything wrong.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:07

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:05

How does it break any laws, though? Is there a law that says women must participate in EVERYTHING?

🫠 ok love.

Plantine · 14/10/2025 11:07

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/10/2025 11:06

Why don’t you find another topic on this discussion forum (clue is in the name), that doesn’t annoy you so much?

I don’t think anyone on the Conflict in the Middle East forum has any impact on issues in the region at all, I couldn’t think of a more waste of my time than continually harking on at them about how anything that they see discussing won’t have any impact on anything whatsoever.

Why is it any concern of yours where I post?

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