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To call for this charity to be sued under UK equality act ?!

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Sickleg · 13/10/2025 16:33

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

They’ve got millions . Make them pay some of those millions to a women’s charity.

BBC STORY:

A charity run organised by the East London Mosque Trust has excluded women and girls aged 13 and over from taking part.
The Muslim Charity Run, which was held in Victoria Park in Tower Hamlets on Sunday, said on its website: "Our inclusive atmosphere ensures that every individual, from the youngest to the oldest, can take part and make a difference."
It added: "This is open to men, boys of all ages and girls under 12, but everyone is welcome at the park to cheer on the runners."

A stock image close-up of a female athlete tying her running shoe.

'Inclusive' Muslim Charity Run bans women and teenage girls - BBC News

The Muslim Charity Run says its "inclusive" race is open to men, boys - and girls under 12.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

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DiscoBob · 13/10/2025 18:01

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 17:36

Do you not care about women's rights? Or do you only care about some women?

I don't care for the angle that this group should be sued. My rights as a woman are unaffected by the fun run. And if Muslim women disagree with it then they should change it.

PencilsInSpace · 13/10/2025 18:01

Merkins · 13/10/2025 17:47

Er, these ones do - religion. Belief is a protected characteristic.

As far as I can see the event was not restricted to muslims only.

Open to everyone: runners, walkers, and children (girls under 12 and boys of any age), plus family and friends as spectators or volunteers. Whether you’re taking part in the 5 km run or cheering from the sidelines, you’re welcome!

greenleafy · 13/10/2025 18:01

DramaLlamacchiato · 13/10/2025 17:59

I’m not convinced Maya is right on this tbh because the PCs of religion, age and sex are all in play

what is the justification for the child cut off being 12? 14 year olds are children but a boy could participate yet not a girl?

12 years is commonly used as the cut off for children. Flights, hotels, restaurants, cinemas, event tickets etc., children are classed as those 12 and under.

EasternStandard · 13/10/2025 18:03

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 17:52

No grounds just patriarchal modesty requirements placed on women.

Yes to this and @Boohoo76post on people ok with it.

BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 18:03

greenleafy · 13/10/2025 17:57

OK, assuming your intentions are good then, are you a Muslim? Have you checked with Muslim women what they think? Heartwarming as your concern is, maybe they don't need you to jump in for them? This might be useful too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior

Muslim women have been objecting to this as well - they’ve just been ignored so far.

You may note that if Muslim women really didn’t want to participate in this publicly funded ‘family’ event, it wouldn’t have been necessary to for the organisers to explicitly exclude them?

Out of interest do you generally support unnecessary discrimination against people as long as you can’t hear them objecting ?

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:04

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 17:48

I meant exactly what I said. I think most people who aren’t trolling will realise I’m a feminist and find it unacceptable that in that charities eyes that equality in the UK doesn’t extend to Muslim women in the UK. Do they not deserve rights too?!

Presumably a Muslim woman who thought that excluding Muslim women from certain things is unacceptable would likely not be practicing her faith.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 18:05

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 17:55

A similar analogy would be a changing room that allows females of any age and males under 7. So males 8 and over would not be allowed. If boys are allowed, why not all males?

That's the opposite scenario - allowing prepubescent male children into what is otherwise a female only space. The reasons for allowing this are quite obvious, namely the fact that if it wasn't allowed, children would not be able to do things like go swimming unless they were with a parent of the same sex.

It's not at all like excluding all teenage girls and adult women from a race for no good reason.

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 18:07

PencilsInSpace · 13/10/2025 17:56

A girl or woman who wanted to join the run but was excluded.

So why haven’t one of the angry posters on this thread done it?

why are they waiting for someone else to do it?

BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 18:07

DiscoBob · 13/10/2025 18:01

I don't care for the angle that this group should be sued. My rights as a woman are unaffected by the fun run. And if Muslim women disagree with it then they should change it.

The same Muslim women that run the risk of being excommunicated or even murdered if they don’t play by the rules?

They may be the lucky ones that are allowed to speak up without repercussions but it’s not a given.

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 18:07

greenleafy · 13/10/2025 18:01

12 years is commonly used as the cut off for children. Flights, hotels, restaurants, cinemas, event tickets etc., children are classed as those 12 and under.

So following your twisty logic of 12 being the cut off, why were boys over 12 not excluded too?

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:08

BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 17:57

Exactly. And according to the mosque, women and 12+ girls were excluded from participating because some make members of the mosque said so.

They were allowed to sit and watch though - how very ‘inclusive’.

But those women are practicing their faith, which they have a right to do so. Or are you assuming that all those women have been dragged there kicking and screaming to stand on the sidelines rather than being fine with the rules? because that would be quite the racist take.
There are many things in various religions that I don’t agree with, but I also accept that people practicing those faiths have every right to do so.

BackToLurk · 13/10/2025 18:11

A big problem with this event seems to be that it doesn’t claim to be ‘a run for men that children under a certain age can take part in’ It advertises itself as an inclusive event, and then excludes a huge part of the population.

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 18:11

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:08

But those women are practicing their faith, which they have a right to do so. Or are you assuming that all those women have been dragged there kicking and screaming to stand on the sidelines rather than being fine with the rules? because that would be quite the racist take.
There are many things in various religions that I don’t agree with, but I also accept that people practicing those faiths have every right to do so.

They can practise their faith however they want “under UK Equality law”.

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TypeyMcTypeface · 13/10/2025 18:12

"Our inclusive atmosphere ensures that every individual, from the youngest to the oldest, can take part and make a difference."

There might be valid reasons within the framework of the Muslim faith to exclude women, but calling it an 'inclusive event' where 'every individual can take part' is simply not accurate.

BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 18:12

greenleafy · 13/10/2025 17:40

What do you mean by "these men" and "UK laws" and "law of the land". Anyone would think you're racist and viewing Muslims as foreigners 😏

It didn’t take long for the ‘racist’ card to be played. Muslim is not a ‘race’ fyi.

People living in the UK are subject to UK law.

We should not allow any group to be exempt from UK law as that leads to serious harm and issues in our society.

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:13

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 18:11

They can practise their faith however they want “under UK Equality law”.

Please quote the exact part of the Equality Act 2010 that says they have broken the law then I will stand corrected.

Currymaker · 13/10/2025 18:15

What's distressing about this race is that the organisers claim that it's an inclusive event, when it's openly excluding a specific group of people. If it were men only, or women only, that would be ok provided they didn't call it inclusive. By saying that females over the age of 12 can't run, they're making it clear that they feel there is something wrong with adolescent girls and women running. I'd love to hear them say openly what those reasons are.

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 18:15

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 18:07

So why haven’t one of the angry posters on this thread done it?

why are they waiting for someone else to do it?

I want the government and charity commission to bring the lawsuit. I wouldn’t know where to start tbh and I don’t have the money to do it or the time. So I’m starting by creating awareness on public forum.

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greenleafy · 13/10/2025 18:16

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 18:07

So following your twisty logic of 12 being the cut off, why were boys over 12 not excluded too?

It's not twisty logic FFS. It's standard practice in the UK to define children as under 12s, I didn't make that up

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 18:17

Currymaker · 13/10/2025 18:15

What's distressing about this race is that the organisers claim that it's an inclusive event, when it's openly excluding a specific group of people. If it were men only, or women only, that would be ok provided they didn't call it inclusive. By saying that females over the age of 12 can't run, they're making it clear that they feel there is something wrong with adolescent girls and women running. I'd love to hear them say openly what those reasons are.

Me too. It’s about “modesty”

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Underthinker · 13/10/2025 18:17

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:13

Please quote the exact part of the Equality Act 2010 that says they have broken the law then I will stand corrected.

I don't think the EA works like that.
The general rule is all services are available to everyone by default, but certain exceptions can be applied where needed.

But regardless of the intricacies of the law, single sex sports usually exist to allow women fair and equal opportunities, this is the opposite, so legal or not, it's unethical.

greenleafy · 13/10/2025 18:18

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:13

Please quote the exact part of the Equality Act 2010 that says they have broken the law then I will stand corrected.

Yes this is it, the whole thread is a waste of time if the OP can't do this

Pippalongsticking · 13/10/2025 18:20

YANBU we have come too far in this country on equal rights to put up with this shit!

Soontobe60 · 13/10/2025 18:21

Underthinker · 13/10/2025 18:17

I don't think the EA works like that.
The general rule is all services are available to everyone by default, but certain exceptions can be applied where needed.

But regardless of the intricacies of the law, single sex sports usually exist to allow women fair and equal opportunities, this is the opposite, so legal or not, it's unethical.

Edited

There is a sentence on p20 of the EA doc that says
“In certain circumstances, a religion or belief organisation can discriminate because of religion or belief or sexual orientation in the way they operate”
I’m sure they would argue that this is what they have done.

www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/equalityguidance-criminal-civiljustice-2015-final.pdf

stichguru · 13/10/2025 18:21

The question is the reason.

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