To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

[AngeloMysterioso]

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

Of course. Hamas was bombing buses in the 1990s in order to (successfully) derail the peace process

Great. Yes, I'm sure there are many Palestinians who totally regret not having taken the opportunities they had for a state. They're not going to get any better, that's for sure as that would be historically and religiously unfair to Israelis.

Nonetheless, to your rather odd points.

1. Palestinians in WB and Gaza have state of Palestine passports. So we've got that one sorted.
2. Free movement will happen when they stop terrorism (they used to mvoe totally free within WB, Gaza and Israel itself before the 2nd intifada).
3. They have a right to work in their own state of paletsine (why do you think they don't?)..

I meant actual use of their passports allowing free movement and being allowed to work anywhere. Rather pointless if they are only restricted to live and work somewhere unliveable not through choice?

I don't understnad.

What's wrong with being able to work in your own country?

And Palestinians can absolutely can and do use their passports to travel abroad.

Yes but what is the point when they are blocked from moving anywhere? Their passports are essentially useless in these conditions. And where they live is unliveable, for obvious reason. Having to request free movement is rather ridiculous. They should be able to work and move about freely.

Maybe they should stop being terrorists then.

They're not blocked from moving. Checkpoints are a big problem for them and should be minimized as much as possible but are for security reasons given the many terrorist attacks. But they are still allowed to move
Passports are not needed for internal movement. Passports are for international travel.

That's my point. They should be allowed to work and travel completely freely anywhere with their passports.

It might be different now because of the war, but I've met Palestinians in Britain. They were able to leave and come here.

Well, that's up to each country what the visa requirements are for Palestine passport holders. None of us can work and travel completely freely anywhere with our passports.

But as you haven’t mentioned any direct experience of your own I’m assuming you haven’t got any, so that makes @Ayoopkid 's input a lot more relevant and valuable than yours.

I don't need direct experience when there are facts. Just because one persons experience resonates with you, doesn't make it universal. Google is free.

But they cannot leave due to the blockages and exit points that's my point?

That's my point. They should be allowed to work and travel completely freely anywhere with their passports.

How is that anything to do with Israel?
Also no-one can just rock up and work and travel completely freely - there's always some sort of visa or immigration process, unless you're within a specific bloc that has a common travel area.

But they cannot leave due to the blockages and exit points that's my point?

I would suggest not committing terrorist attacks on Israel then? That might go a way towards making exit points less blocked.

Why do you think they can't travel with their passports? What nationalities can travel and work completely freely without visas, restrictions etc?

In fact, of the two nationalities, it's Israeli passport holders that are not admitted into Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Yemen, whereas Palestinian passport holders are only not admitted in Madagascar. Do you think it's equally unfair that Israeli passport holders are also not able to travel completely freely?
https://www.passportindex.org/passport/palestinian-territories/
https://www.passportindex.org/passport/israel/

If that open disdain for someone's real-life experience of appalling discriminatory treatment weren't so appalling, it would be almost funny.

Yes. And ask themselves why Egypt and Jordan, and apparently the other Arab countries too, don’t want them. There are many oil-rich Arab countries who could easily absorb the Palestinians and give them a helping hand if they wanted to, but they don’t. I wonder why that is.

The difference being that Netanyahu remains in Israel. With his people. Whether his son, aunty or third cousin removed leaves the country is irrelevant. The Hanas regime have made their money on the back of the Palestinuans since oct 2023. Whatever you think of Netanyahu he is fighting for his people and keeping them safe. Oh....and not using them as human shields.

Another delightful Palestine supporter:

https://x.com/habibi_uk/status/1975634304920342670

Whilst sheltering other Arabs. Jordan and Lebanon have huge Syrian refugee populations.

The double standards are remarkable really. Israel was subjected to suicide bombings, shootings, stabbings, car-rammings, causing hundreds of deaths and thousands of injuries, equivalent to a terrorist attack about every 6 weeks for 15 years, not to mention thousands of rockets and incendiaries being fired at civilian targets. Yet they're expected not only to do nothing to ensure the safety of their citizens but to also enable those militants with continuing total freedom of movement.

It's extremely unfair that Palestinians wishing for a normal life and co-existence with their neighbours have their movement restricted and suffer for the actions of the aggressors among them but why is it unacceptable that Israel would put measures in place to end a sustained campaign of terror and murder against Israelis?

There was nothing stopping the Palestinian authorities pursuing a path to preventing those attacks, then the IDF/Israeli govt would have no excuse for their heavy handed treatment of Palestinians in the WB and excessive detainment. The Palestinian ruling bodies could have chosen to improve the working and economic conditions and tackle corruption in their own territories but they established the Palestinian Martyrs Fund instead.

It’s actually more than that. You can’t get into loads of places if you have an Israeli stamp or Israel as your birthplace. It’s not just Israeli passports that are blocked.

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This thread is great, thank you everyone for pointing out some actual truths. Don’t want to derail the thread but I highly recommend Coleman Hughes dismantling of Dave Smith on “Conversations with Coleman”, very satisfying.

And the UAE? Saudi? Incredibly wealthy countries doing precious little.