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To finally agree with a junior doctors strike

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Horsehow · 06/10/2025 18:20

Junior doctors have decided to strike as they are being overlooked for jobs / training posts which are instead given to international applicants. I’ve always abhorred their money grabbing strikes in the past, but support this one 100%. UK doctors should be recruited where possible, and international graduates only turned to where we cannot find a suitable recruit in the UK.

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PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 20:54

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 20:47

I've already said, explicitly, I remembered this particular boast because it struck me as odd to draw attention to three dropped grades.

False premise again.

No need to look back.

Also, the comment about no parental involvement is odd. What do you mean?

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You know. Good evening

stuffedpeppers · 23/10/2025 20:58

IMGs will still apply and good luck to them and any UKMG with their careers.

If they come my way I will train them all equally with no discrimination

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 21:07

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 20:54

You know. Good evening

What on earth are you on?

More and more bizarre.

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 21:09

I hope that I'm not the only poster who feels this thread has descended into madness.

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 21:13

Thank goodness for sanity in the form of Celebrity Traitors, just started.

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 21:19

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 20:33

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if your DS wasn't a fine young man who would be mortified by his mother's behaviour on this thread.

You are truly charitable Sevillian. I was thinking that if he has grown up as rude as his mother he would be very hard to employ.

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:29

I don’t support them striking over pay (again) but support them over the lack of jobs situation

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:32

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 21:19

You are truly charitable Sevillian. I was thinking that if he has grown up as rude as his mother he would be very hard to employ.

Sticks and stones

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 21:33

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:32

Sticks and stones

How old are you?

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:35

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:29

I don’t support them striking over pay (again) but support them over the lack of jobs situation

Completely agree. UKMG prioritisation. There are not enough jobs for UKMGs because 20,802 IMGs applied to UK specialty training.

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:36

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:35

Completely agree. UKMG prioritisation. There are not enough jobs for UKMGs because 20,802 IMGs applied to UK specialty training.

Absolutely agree as well - it’s completely unjust!

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:40

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:36

Absolutely agree as well - it’s completely unjust!

For some reason the ridiculous amount of IMGs applying for Specialty Training has been kept under the radar.

Glad this unfair system has now been exposed. There has been some journalist interest.

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 21:49

And 'Wes' has responded by saying all good provided everyone sorts their GMC registration first (a given for UKMGs) and you can't blanket apply (universal).

That's it for the 2026 round which opened today.

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:49

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:40

For some reason the ridiculous amount of IMGs applying for Specialty Training has been kept under the radar.

Glad this unfair system has now been exposed. There has been some journalist interest.

It needs more coverage though in my opinion!

Less about pay - more about this. Then they’ll get public support…

EasternStandard · 23/10/2025 21:54

Presumably it’s easier to attach quotas than it is to give pay rises? Fewer international places and higher UK

Snufkin88 · 23/10/2025 21:55

I’m a nurse and I will always support junior doctor colleagues. They have such a tough job, such an amount of responsibility and get treated so badly. People who don’t work in healthcare don’t realise how truly awful it can be.

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:59

EasternStandard · 23/10/2025 21:54

Presumably it’s easier to attach quotas than it is to give pay rises? Fewer international places and higher UK

Exactly. Wes Streeting could prioritise UKMGs overnight.

He promised this but did not deliver. On X doctors are very very angry about him going back on this.

Glad doctor unemployment has become common knowledge.

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 22:00

PeonyPatch · 23/10/2025 21:49

It needs more coverage though in my opinion!

Less about pay - more about this. Then they’ll get public support…

Completely agree.

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 22:25

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 21:59

Exactly. Wes Streeting could prioritise UKMGs overnight.

He promised this but did not deliver. On X doctors are very very angry about him going back on this.

Glad doctor unemployment has become common knowledge.

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But I thought you'd won? And Wes was listening? There must be some mistake. Surely another strike is hardly a victory, and that seems to be the sum total of all your excitement earlier.

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 22:42

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 22:25

But I thought you'd won? And Wes was listening? There must be some mistake. Surely another strike is hardly a victory, and that seems to be the sum total of all your excitement earlier.

We have won. Pandora's box, the secret is out. Don't care what Wes thinks as he will have to do something whether he likes it as not as general public and doctors will not tolerate UKMG unemployment.

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 22:50

Yes quite. You and mumsneedwine have won and yet doctors are fuming on X and while Wes is listening he has failed to deliver. What a pickle.

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 22:51

Well as my granny would have said, 'if wishes were horses the poor would ride'.

You and the BMA can wish for what you like, but government make policy and they can't afford to give way.

And the GMC can't allow standards to fall to the level which would allow every UK graduate to progress.

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 22:53

And now you don't care what Wes thinks? After he listened to you! Ungrateful or what. Anyhow, good luck with that: Wes calls the shots.

ChampagneJen · 23/10/2025 22:56

Sevillian · 23/10/2025 21:09

I hope that I'm not the only poster who feels this thread has descended into madness.

Yes like every other one of these threads! Not sure why you don’t just step away from this yourself @Sevillian . You’re (albeit quite articulately) shouting into the abyss.

PurpleFairyLights · 23/10/2025 22:57

Scotiasdarling · 23/10/2025 22:51

Well as my granny would have said, 'if wishes were horses the poor would ride'.

You and the BMA can wish for what you like, but government make policy and they can't afford to give way.

And the GMC can't allow standards to fall to the level which would allow every UK graduate to progress.

The pay rise I don't agree with.

UK doctor unemployment is the issue Reform will latch onto when they see that 63% of applicants were IMGs in 2025.

Nobody has mentioned every doctor progresses. We want priority for UKMGs.

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