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Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:16

This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

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noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:02

@nomas what is your opinion of the woman who said "I don't give a fuck about the Jewish community" while protesting on Thursday evening, the same day as the synagogue attack?

What's your opinion of the protesters who were arrested at that march for assaults on police officers?

More generally:

What's your opinion of the marchers chanting 'Death to the IDF'?

What's your opinion of the marchers who chant support for the Houthis?

What's your opinion of the marchers who physically attacked a man for holding a sign saying "Hamas are terrorists"?

Zonder · 05/10/2025 11:02

ThatCyanCat · 05/10/2025 10:58

If ending the killing is the top priority, protest for Hamas to accept the deal. That is literally the one thing that can stop it right now.

If you don't like all terms of the deal, the particulars can be amended over time in peace and stability. What boggles minds is that you could think it's a genocide and yet not want to take the clear step that would stop it.

What if ending the killing plus making sure there's a decent future for the Palestinian people is the top priority?

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:03

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 05/10/2025 10:59

But why exactly do you think this? Is it not anti semitic to weaponise the deaths of 2 Jewish men to allow a foreign state to continue a genocide? Are you saying that the Jewish community in Manchester/the UK are responsible for the Israeli governments actions? Is that not anti semitic?

"Weaponise the deaths of 2 Jewish men" FFS listen to yourselves.

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:04

User1928 · 05/10/2025 10:58

😂 because you said this thread was full of Israeli bots!

I haven’t “proscribed” any of your views, strange as I find them. I’m not prescribing any to you either. I’m just responding to what you wrote. But if you do in fact think it’s legit that a lot of people are worried and scared by the tone of public debate & frightened after Thursday then I’m delighted that you can see and understand their position. It is possible to hold and understand multiple positions. Rather than this binary polarisation which tears people apart.

because you said this thread was full of Israeli bots!

Quote where I said that?

Yes, it’s possible to hold different opinions. I can abhor the rise and scale of anti-Semitism and also think that I don’t know enough about the protests for Palestine to say they could have been cancelled at short notice. Note the huge protest in Barca at the same time.

I also think if the protests had been cancelled, some bad faith actors would have said ‘see, they were anti-Semitic protests all along.’

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 11:04

"Weaponise the deaths of 2 Jewish men" FFS listen to yourselves.

Unbelievable, do people actually think this is what the police, HS and PM are doing.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 11:04

MrsFinkelstein · 05/10/2025 10:55

They just need to sit down with a sign that doesn't say "I support Palestine Action".

They could hold a sign that says "I support Palestine" or "End the War in Gaza". "Support Gazans".

If they support Palestinians so much why don't they do that?

Totally this.

Thank you, its as simple as this.

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PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 11:04

LadyPiglet · 05/10/2025 10:47

It was definitely not unlawful for women to own property 50 years ago.

No, it was just unlawful for women to apply for a mortgage without a male guarantor.

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:06

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:02

@nomas what is your opinion of the woman who said "I don't give a fuck about the Jewish community" while protesting on Thursday evening, the same day as the synagogue attack?

What's your opinion of the protesters who were arrested at that march for assaults on police officers?

More generally:

What's your opinion of the marchers chanting 'Death to the IDF'?

What's your opinion of the marchers who chant support for the Houthis?

What's your opinion of the marchers who physically attacked a man for holding a sign saying "Hamas are terrorists"?

I abhor the rise and scale of anti-Semitism.

I haven’t seen these specific instances, if you send me links I’m happy to look.

EasternStandard · 05/10/2025 11:07

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:04

because you said this thread was full of Israeli bots!

Quote where I said that?

Yes, it’s possible to hold different opinions. I can abhor the rise and scale of anti-Semitism and also think that I don’t know enough about the protests for Palestine to say they could have been cancelled at short notice. Note the huge protest in Barca at the same time.

I also think if the protests had been cancelled, some bad faith actors would have said ‘see, they were anti-Semitic protests all along.’

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Your first post, who were you referring to? The op?

User1928 · 05/10/2025 11:07

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:04

because you said this thread was full of Israeli bots!

Quote where I said that?

Yes, it’s possible to hold different opinions. I can abhor the rise and scale of anti-Semitism and also think that I don’t know enough about the protests for Palestine to say they could have been cancelled at short notice. Note the huge protest in Barca at the same time.

I also think if the protests had been cancelled, some bad faith actors would have said ‘see, they were anti-Semitic protests all along.’

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0928 you said:

QUOTE Yet another thread about this.
As Netanyahu has admitted to using social media as a propaganda tool, I think there is definitely a concerted Israeli campaign.
I hope Mumsnet are monitoring accounts and looking at people who only post about one issue.
“Online, Israel began campaigns focused on swaying Black and Democratic lawmakers to its side by using fake social media accounts to argue pro-Israeli positions.”
https://archive.ph/70qyJ
(The New York Times)
UNQUOTE.

Were you not suggesting this thread is full of Israeli bots? Just Mumsnet but not this thread? Or were you in fact saying something different and actually this was a totally unrelated side comment?

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:07

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:06

I abhor the rise and scale of anti-Semitism.

I haven’t seen these specific instances, if you send me links I’m happy to look.

You haven't seen these specific instances? What the fuck are you doing defending marches when you don't appear to have the slightest clue why people might be objecting to them?

Puppylucky · 05/10/2025 11:07

PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 10:19

Oswald Mosley, leader of the British Union of Fascists, was imprisoned in 1940 under Defence Regulation 18B because the government (led by Winston Churchill) saw him as a potential threat to national security and suspected Nazi sympathies. He was held without trial for over three years and released in 1943 on health grounds. His wife Diana Mosley was also imprisoned. Their daughter shot herself in the head in Germany the day war was declared. Hitler paid her medical expenses. So the British Union of Fascists had become unpopular by that time.

Unity was Diana Mosely's sister not her daughter. All part of the Mitford family.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 05/10/2025 11:08

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:03

"Weaponise the deaths of 2 Jewish men" FFS listen to yourselves.

Do you have an answer to my question?

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 11:09

Were you not suggesting this thread is full of Israeli bots?

I think they are saying that because they only insinuated re bots and didn't say bots then they didn't mean bots 🤷🏻‍♀️😆

ThatCyanCat · 05/10/2025 11:09

Zonder · 05/10/2025 11:02

What if ending the killing plus making sure there's a decent future for the Palestinian people is the top priority?

Indefinitely prolonging the killing, with Hamas in charge, is not a decent future for the Palestinian people. It's the worst future possible. You can't finish the entire process in a day. You can finish the killing.

And like I said, if you don't like the full terms of the deal, the longer term solution can be worked out later. But stop the killing first. You say it's genocide, but you don't want to apply first aid, stop the killing, as the first priority, and then work on the longer term occupational therapy?

Why on earth not?

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:09

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 05/10/2025 11:08

Do you have an answer to my question?

Oh the disgust I had at your comment about the recent death of two real people overwhelmed any desire to take the rest of your post seriously.

Do you never think "Am I the baddie here"?

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:10

EasternStandard · 05/10/2025 11:07

Your first post, who were you referring to? The op?

As MNHQ continually remind us, not everyone is who they say are on the internet.

I’m suspicious of people with strong views and 9 posts to their name, so sue me 🤷🏻‍♀️

People have also shown they will report every single post of mine.

quantumbutterfly · 05/10/2025 11:11

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:36

I've just been reading a BBC news report about their reasons and it is laughably nonsensical. People were at risk of harm? No shit, it's a war. A fertility clinic with frozen embryos and sperm samples was in the bombing zone in 2023 so that apparently met the definition of restricting births. Total and utter guff. Offensive even, especially as there are real genocides going on right now.

It seems what people are labelling as a UN conclusion is actually more an argument for the prosecution in the ICJ case as yet undecided.

I've seen and heard an increase in virulent antisemitism spouted openly since 7/10 and seemingly with no consequences. Weak leadership has brought us here and I'm afraid the Jewish community will be sacrificed for the sake of appeasement again.
These protesters remind me of kids being egged on to push the limits of authority, how hard is it for them to support their chosen cause of palestine without supporting violent thuggery, other pro-pal groups are available. It's attention seeking of course, they think it's for the cause but I see them as the distraction not the purpose.

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:11

User1928 · 05/10/2025 11:07

0928 you said:

QUOTE Yet another thread about this.
As Netanyahu has admitted to using social media as a propaganda tool, I think there is definitely a concerted Israeli campaign.
I hope Mumsnet are monitoring accounts and looking at people who only post about one issue.
“Online, Israel began campaigns focused on swaying Black and Democratic lawmakers to its side by using fake social media accounts to argue pro-Israeli positions.”
https://archive.ph/70qyJ
(The New York Times)
UNQUOTE.

Were you not suggesting this thread is full of Israeli bots? Just Mumsnet but not this thread? Or were you in fact saying something different and actually this was a totally unrelated side comment?

As MNHQ continually remind us, not everyone is who they say are on the internet.

I’m suspicious of people with strong views and 9 posts to their name, so sue me 🤷🏻‍♀️

People have also shown they will report every single post of mine.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 11:11

People have also shown they will report every single post of mine.

Maybe reflect on that....

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2025 11:11

I've posted about the horrendous experience my daughter had with these violent thugs on Thursday when they rampaged through Lime Street Station. I'm not being told it's nonsense

I know you have, @Alltheprettyseahorses, but your account won't suit the preferred narrative of the hatemongers so they'll either suggest you have no proof or - as you've seen - dismiss it completely

They might have more credibility if they were equally interested in this as in their own obsessions with illegal organisations, but they don't seem interested in credibility, only in creating more unrest and distress to jews

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:12

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:07

You haven't seen these specific instances? What the fuck are you doing defending marches when you don't appear to have the slightest clue why people might be objecting to them?

The vast majority of people on the marches are peaceful, are they not?

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 11:13

I’m suspicious of people with strong views and 9 posts to their name, so sue me

You are a liar, you accused me and I had more than 9 posts to my name.

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:14

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 11:11

People have also shown they will report every single post of mine.

Maybe reflect on that....

Yes, my reflection is that reporting someone for saying that someone has very few posts to their name is quite cynical and calculated.

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 11:14

nomas · 05/10/2025 11:12

The vast majority of people on the marches are peaceful, are they not?

And yet you, yourself on this very thread saw fit to highlight the arrests for assaulting police officers at the Tommy Robinson march.

Why are those worth highlighting but the violence at the pro-Palestine march not?

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