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Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:16

This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

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nomas · 05/10/2025 10:52

User1928 · 05/10/2025 10:45

You got me! I’ll give Bibi a call & tell him his cunning plan isn’t working.
seriously, I find it so worrying that you are unable to believe that there are many people out here (me included) who are hugely frightened by the tenor of public debate in this country and where it lead on Thursday (British Jews being murdered at their place of worship in Britain).
I get that you don’t seem to think that’s worrying. Or you say we shouldn’t be worried because that pales into comparison with what is happening in Gaza so we should just suck it up (I mean on that basis we should never be concerned about any violence in the UK because of the scale on which it is happening in Sudan, Nigeria, Ukraine the list goes on. A bit like children being reproved with talk of the Ethiopian famine when they didn’t want to eat their supper). But for lots of us it is deeply deeply concerning and frightening development which did not need to happen. If you shout “globalise the intifada” this is what happens.

Why have you proscribed views to me that I don’t hold?

And why have you conflated yourself with Netanyahu?

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:52

GlosGirl82 · 05/10/2025 10:51

Disagree - Gaza is genocide and to protest that is decent and honourable

The ones who were arrested weren't protesting that. They were supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Mimph · 05/10/2025 10:52

The suggestion that those who do not support or at the very least don’t object to the Pro Palestine groups and marches somehow infiltrating from outside is propaganda itself. The very fact that those who aren’t pro these groups and marches feel they can’t voice their views openly in my opinion shows just how toxic the debate itself has become. I suspect that the majority of people do not agree with the marches and groups but have been silenced out of fear.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:53

The ones who were arrested weren't protesting that. They were supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

exactly

LadyPiglet · 05/10/2025 10:54

PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 10:35

I’m not breaking any laws.

The Suffragettes broke the law.

Martin Luther King Jr broke the law.

Nelson Mandela broke the law.

Some laws are unjust and they are repealed.

Just over 50 years ago it was unlawful for a woman to own property in this country.

It used to be lawful for men to beat their wives in this country.

It used to be lawful to buy and sell slaves.

It was definitely not unlawful for a woman to own property in this country 50 years ago.

Suffragettes were arrested - and sent to prison - for violent acts including bombings. There was a major rift between them and the non-violent suffragists. Many historians believe that the actions of the suffragettes in fact delayed the grant of women's suffrage (which followed more directly the contribution of women to the WW1 war effort)

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:54

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:52

So you do agree that there are genuine posters posting about this?

Do you think that painting criticism of yesterday's marches as Israeli propaganda is helpful?

The point is we don’t know who anyone is on tinternet.

Do you think that painting criticism of yesterday's marches as Israeli propaganda is helpful?

Where did I do that? I’m suspicious of posters with strong views but barely any posts to their name, sue me.

Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 10:55

The worst thing is that they seem to say because they are a pensioner/vicar/hold a tin pot degree or think of themselves as ‘educated’ or part of the met political elite that this makes their disgraceful protesting acceptable and credible. It really isn’t acceptable in any shape or form.

Supporting Hamas is really a low bar, doing so whilst there was a direct attack on British civilians is gutter level behaviour.

No one wants to see anyone die in the Middle East, we all hope for peace, but running around in a deranged fashion with placards stirring up racial hatred is not cool, and it never will be. I would be disgusted if I knew anyone doing this in real life.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/10/2025 10:55

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:52

They are holding signs saying they support a proscribed terrorist organisation. That is illegal, hence the arrests.

I'm confused that some find the above confusing!

Its baffling isn't it.

It seems people are suggesting the only way to protest about what's happening in Gaza is to hold signs saying you support a proscribed terrorist organisation.

It's absolute nonsense, there are loads of ways to protest, slogans to use, that wouldn't get them arrested. They know that. They want to waste police resources.

MrsFinkelstein · 05/10/2025 10:55

MyFortieth · 05/10/2025 10:34

Whilst I agree that those using a sledgehammer should be arrested (and charged), sitting down with a sign seems a push.

It also begs the question: how might people validly protest a view you disagree with?
The Hamas attacks were disgusting- but they don’t justify collective starvation or genocide, nor the pager attacks (which had been in planning since before October 7th).

I find pro Israelis to be very much like those who were “Blue Lives Matter”. When you ask them how the other people might protest the answer is “silently, unpublicised and at home.”

They just need to sit down with a sign that doesn't say "I support Palestine Action".

They could hold a sign that says "I support Palestine" or "End the War in Gaza". "Support Gazans".

If they support Palestinians so much why don't they do that?

sunflower1022 · 05/10/2025 10:56

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:50

Perhaps the posters wittering on about bots should perhaps instead engage with some reflection about why people might be disgusted that a group of people who were asked not to take up police resources in the wake of a terrorist attack decided that they were more important than that.

Why are they wittering about bots instead of engaging with that discussion? Hmm

Because they are incapable of seeing anything other than their ‘cause’. They are blinded by their self-righteousness.

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 10:56

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:31

Im a UK citizen that walked through a protest several months ago and felt really uncomfortable and I'm not Jewish.

Why is it when people don't support the protesters we are called bots or Israeli spreaders if something or another. Why are WE nit allowed to disagree with the marches? Ridiculous.

Because it boggles the mind as to why anyone with their moral fabric still attached would think opposing a genocide is a bad thing hence why the only conclusion is that you’re part of the propaganda. The threads on here are constant and it’s the same names supporting Israeli agenda.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:56

It's absolute nonsense, there are loads of ways to protest, slogans to use, that wouldn't get them arrested. They know that. They want to waste police resources.

yep

KTheGrey · 05/10/2025 10:56

CopperWhite · 05/10/2025 09:23

These people were peacefully protesting and only needed to be arrested to make a political point. To arrest that many people who were sitting doing nothing except holding signs, it shows that they never really needed to ask for the protests to be called of yesterday. If there was work the police should have been doing elsewhere to protect the Jewish community like they said, they’d have done it, but clearly they had plenty of time to arrest peaceful pensioners.

Yes, because police won’t arrest the scary ones, because they are chicken imo. Probably because they are at risk if they do. Interesting times.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 10:56

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:37

Here's my thread about the violent protest on Thursday night outside Downing Street where police officers were assaulted by pro-Palestinian protesters

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5421238-violent-protest-assaults-on-police-racist-remarks

And one of my threads about the Tommy Robinson marches
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5409337-tommy-robinson-hitler-and-wooden-crosses

I assume you will ignore this as it doesn't support your view that normal people can't have concerns about both sets of marches containing violent racist thugs.

Thank you. Its possible to be have opinions about a range of things. I think some dont like tgat everyone has different views and the easy route us to pretend bots, paid comments etc. People just have different views. I just felt that the marches didn't really achieve anything but increased tensions in the UK and made some individuals fearful.

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Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 10:57

MrsFinkelstein · 05/10/2025 10:55

They just need to sit down with a sign that doesn't say "I support Palestine Action".

They could hold a sign that says "I support Palestine" or "End the War in Gaza". "Support Gazans".

If they support Palestinians so much why don't they do that?

Or get behind the peace plan for example!!!

User1928 · 05/10/2025 10:58

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:52

Why have you proscribed views to me that I don’t hold?

And why have you conflated yourself with Netanyahu?

😂 because you said this thread was full of Israeli bots!

I haven’t “proscribed” any of your views, strange as I find them. I’m not prescribing any to you either. I’m just responding to what you wrote. But if you do in fact think it’s legit that a lot of people are worried and scared by the tone of public debate & frightened after Thursday then I’m delighted that you can see and understand their position. It is possible to hold and understand multiple positions. Rather than this binary polarisation which tears people apart.

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:58

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 10:56

Because it boggles the mind as to why anyone with their moral fabric still attached would think opposing a genocide is a bad thing hence why the only conclusion is that you’re part of the propaganda. The threads on here are constant and it’s the same names supporting Israeli agenda.

Agreed, it’s constant.

ThatCyanCat · 05/10/2025 10:58

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 10:56

Because it boggles the mind as to why anyone with their moral fabric still attached would think opposing a genocide is a bad thing hence why the only conclusion is that you’re part of the propaganda. The threads on here are constant and it’s the same names supporting Israeli agenda.

If ending the killing is the top priority, protest for Hamas to accept the deal. That is literally the one thing that can stop it right now.

If you don't like all terms of the deal, the particulars can be amended over time in peace and stability. What boggles minds is that you could think it's a genocide and yet not want to take the clear step that would stop it.

KTheGrey · 05/10/2025 10:58

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 10:56

Because it boggles the mind as to why anyone with their moral fabric still attached would think opposing a genocide is a bad thing hence why the only conclusion is that you’re part of the propaganda. The threads on here are constant and it’s the same names supporting Israeli agenda.

Do you believe that foreign destabilisation is a real thing that exists? Go and watch The Americans - they got their stories from real
life. Destabilisation is when populations turn on each other, and it is a serious threat to democracy. In other words - the problem is not the problem.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 05/10/2025 10:59

The marches are designed to intimidate Jewish people. They support the annihilation of Israel. Anyone going on them is supporting radical Islam and at best a useful fucking idiot. No one in my friendship group supports this nonsense, thankfully.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 05/10/2025 10:59

PandoraSocks · 05/10/2025 10:51

I think what is happening in Palestine is abhorrent. I also think the marchers/protestors could have held off this one weekend out of respect for the Jewish community.

But why exactly do you think this? Is it not anti semitic to weaponise the deaths of 2 Jewish men to allow a foreign state to continue a genocide? Are you saying that the Jewish community in Manchester/the UK are responsible for the Israeli governments actions? Is that not anti semitic?

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 11:00

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 10:56

Because it boggles the mind as to why anyone with their moral fabric still attached would think opposing a genocide is a bad thing hence why the only conclusion is that you’re part of the propaganda. The threads on here are constant and it’s the same names supporting Israeli agenda.

Earlier on I was a bot or paid by Israel and a name changer and now its the same names. Maybe I just have a different view to you. We don't all think the same way.

Enjoy your day. I'm off out with my dog.

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Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 11:01

The Hamas/Gaza cult going to these protests genuinely seem to think that anyone suggesting that they should be respectful given the atrocity this week is a bot. It’s absolutely ludicrous.

I don't support the Israeli government, but I sympathise with the pressure they are under to safely bring those poor hostages home.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 11:01

ThatCyanCat · 05/10/2025 10:58

If ending the killing is the top priority, protest for Hamas to accept the deal. That is literally the one thing that can stop it right now.

If you don't like all terms of the deal, the particulars can be amended over time in peace and stability. What boggles minds is that you could think it's a genocide and yet not want to take the clear step that would stop it.

This.

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Zonder · 05/10/2025 11:01

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:31

Im a UK citizen that walked through a protest several months ago and felt really uncomfortable and I'm not Jewish.

Why is it when people don't support the protesters we are called bots or Israeli spreaders if something or another. Why are WE nit allowed to disagree with the marches? Ridiculous.

Would you have felt as uncomfortable walking by the Tommy Robinson march recently?