Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

[NototerrorismIntheUK]

This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

Who have I called a bot? No one.

I assume this is you accepting that they are not.

You what now?

You said "As Netanyahu has admitted to using social media as a propaganda tool, I think there is definitely a concerted Israeli campaign."

So you don't think that that people posting on MN about these marches are Israeli bots and are actually genuine posters?

He's not restricting Jewish people in the UK. He's in another country. Was talking about people in the UK, but you knew that already. This particular thread was looking at the arrests in London, someone else suggested its the same group as just stop oil. I personally think peaceful protest great but supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation not so great

Most people I know feel the same say about the flag shaggers.

To be clear, I meant those who claim it is anti semitic to say anything against Israel or its actions and that people cannot protest them have an incredible level of supremacy and entitlement. I find it completely disingenuous and insulting to Jewish people who actually experience anti semitism to use the term as a manipulation tactic to oppress opposition to Israel. And I think the Jewish people criticising Netanyahu are brave and very good people. Of course I don’t believe all Jewish people have the same opinions - the point of my post was that the general public are not able to express legitimate criticism of Israel and what they are doing to the Palestinian people without fear of being labelled anti semitic, terror supporters, hate filled etc. In the same way that it is not Islamophobic to be against terror attacks. I hope I am articulating my point correctly. I just feel extremely sad and angry when I see posts such as these, when I think of the thousands of innocent lives lost, thousands of children who have lost limbs, parents, siblings. To see people on a forum for mothers telling people that they are bad or wrong for not unequivocally supporting Israel and that they must be an anti semite for wanting Israel to stop killing civilians - I really can’t fathom what kind of coldness they have in their souls or what their agenda is. It is not about their religion, it is about their humanity

@nomasdid you mean the op or not?

Unfortunately yes, they do seem to be that deluded, and while there may have been nearly 500 arrests yesterdaay the total so far is much higher than that -- and much of this in support of an organisation which they know full well is proscribed for a reason

They could of course petition Parliament or bombard their own MPs with letters instead, but that wouldn't offer a nice day out and the chance for some social media pics so naturally they take to the streets instead, and never mind what they're doing to the feelings of the jewish community

Absolutely.

Excuse me? I've posted about the horrendous experience my daughter had with these violent thugs on Thursday when they rampaged through Lime Street Station. I'm not being told it's nonsense. I remember seeing videos of a group of Palestine protest thugs running around somewhere in London yelling 'Jews, Jews' like they were hunting for them. MPs, much as I have total contempt for the lot of them, can't walk safely through the streets. We're meant to be a civilised country and we let this go on. I have had more than enough.

You got me! I’ll give Bibi a call & tell him his cunning plan isn’t working.
seriously, I find it so worrying that you are unable to believe that there are many people out here (me included) who are hugely frightened by the tenor of public debate in this country and where it lead on Thursday (British Jews being murdered at their place of worship in Britain).
I get that you don’t seem to think that’s worrying. Or you say we shouldn’t be worried because that pales into comparison with what is happening in Gaza so we should just suck it up (I mean on that basis we should never be concerned about any violence in the UK because of the scale on which it is happening in Sudan, Nigeria, Ukraine the list goes on. A bit like children being reproved with talk of the Ethiopian famine when they didn’t want to eat their supper). But for lots of us it is deeply deeply concerning and frightening development which did not need to happen. If you shout “globalise the intifada” this is what happens.

I think that when the New York Times says Israel is using social media as a propaganda tool, we should believe them.

Online, Israel began campaigns focused on swaying Black and Democratic lawmakers to its side by using fake social media accounts to argue pro-Israeli positions.”

https://archive.ph/70qyJ

(The New York Times)

It was definitely not unlawful for women to own property 50 years ago.

Sure, but when you post "Yet another thread on this blah blah Israel manipulation" and I am one of the posters who has posted a thread on this, do you know what you can do with your insinuation that I am posting on behalf of Israel?

Nelson Mandela worked for a terrorist organisation. Slavery used to be legal. Hiding Jews during the holocaust was illegal.

Legality is often not linked to morality. It’s encouraged to use your own brain and moral compass sometimes.

They are holding signs saying they support a proscribed terrorist organisation. That is illegal, hence the arrests.

How could they protest? Pretty easily really, just use slightly different slogans on their signs. But they won't because they want to be arrested. They want to divert police resources.

Again, why are you pretending I posted to you? I haven’t even seen your thread.

You are absolutely right op, a cult where those that are practising can not see how deranged and distasteful it appears. Most have lost all sense of proportionality and perspective.

They have worked themselves into such a frenzy and have become utterly unreasonable in the process.

It is rather terrifying to see how it has affected some people.

Their actions are making things worse not better. It certainly isn’t assisting anyone in bloody Gaza!!

Perhaps the posters wittering on about bots should perhaps instead engage with some reflection about why people might be disgusted that a group of people who were asked not to take up police resources in the wake of a terrorist attack decided that they were more important than that.

Why are they wittering about bots instead of engaging with that discussion?

Why are they wittering about bots instead of engaging with that discussion?

They deflect, derail, minimise, ignore. It's almost like they have an agenda...

I think what is happening in Palestine is abhorrent. I also think the marchers/protestors could have held off this one weekend out of respect for the Jewish community.

Disagree - Gaza is genocide and to protest that is decent and honourable

So you do agree that there are genuine posters posting about this?

Do you think that painting criticism of yesterday's marches as Israeli propaganda is helpful?

They are holding signs saying they support a proscribed terrorist organisation. That is illegal, hence the arrests.

I'm confused that some find the above confusing!