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Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:16

This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:24

These hate marches need to banned. I was unfortunately caught up in a mob on Thursday in Liverpool and they were like feral beasts - we were walking through Lime Street Station to the Empire when they flooded in from the steps outside where they'd been screeching 'from the river to the sea'. My young teen daughter got separated from me in the surge and was targeted by a man jabbing his finger in her face and a woman with a megaphone shrieking free Palestine down her ear. They also went in the tiny Starbucks blasting through their megaphones, the staff had to close due to the danger. We can't let this go on. And the day after the awful terrorist atrocity in Manchester - I genuinely can't see any other reason for their rampage than celebration.

The stupid accusations of the war being disproportionate should be treated with the disgusted contempt they deserve. What they really mean is Palestine isn't killing enough Israelis in the war Palestine started. I guarantee they wouldn't be crying if it was the other way round, they'd be celebrating. Just like October 7th was celebrated.

As an aside, I've also been accused of being a paid Israeli shill. I'm not Jewish either. It just reinforces my belief that they're nothing but fringe conspiracy theorists of the worst kind, emboldened by social media. 2 countries 3000 miles away fighting what really is a relatively minor skirmish compared to the horrors going on in so many countries right now including actual genocides, the focus on it is ridiculous.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:24

That people are antisemitic on MN? Absolutely proven.

100% it's shocking actually.

PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 10:25

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:19

When did the police ask people not to protest? I haven’t seen that.

The Met Police wrote to Defend Our Juries to ask them to pause the planned demonstrations supporting the flotillas. Defend Our Juries said no. The Netanyahu government didn’t stop the bombings or ground invasion.

wonderstuff · 05/10/2025 10:25

I’m torn on this, it’s so distressing watching the footage from Gaza and I can sympathise with people feeling they want to do something. I don’t understand why we are arresting people who are peacefully protesting, but I do understand why people vandalising military equipment should expect to have harsh repercussions from the state.

That there’s so much hate of minorities in the UK is also very distressing, that Jewish people are feeling, well not just feeling are unsafe in the Uk is gut wrenchingly awful too. I feel there’s a concerted effort to divide us at the moment, that social media is so toxic and those toxic views and ideas are spilling out and the far right and far left are emboldened.

I don’t know what the answer is, I think some centrist leadership is lacking, but I really don’t think arresting 500 peaceful protesters is in anyway helpful. They want to be arrested, they want the spectacle, there’s no benefit to putting them through the already overwhelmed criminal justice system, police are being forced to use enormous amounts of resources. I think it was a knee jerk mistake to make them a proscribed terrorist group.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:26

But NO, their public self-flagellation for The Cause was more important than protecting Jewish spaces.

So self indulgent

User1928 · 05/10/2025 10:26

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No. It’s perfectly legitimate to criticise Netanyahu’s government. I do all the time.
It is generally considered anti semitic to class all Jewish people as having the same views; and describe Jewish people as having “an incredible level of supremacy and entitlement”.
I’m sure that wasn’t your intention as you say you don’t hate Jews. So I hope this helps you to be more careful with your words. Because as they are they make for pretty bleak reading.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:26

Yes, but they don’t need arresting. It’s unsustainable.

If you are breaking the law, you are breaking the law. Supporting a terrorist organisation is against the law...

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:27

I think it was a knee jerk mistake to make them a proscribed terrorist group.

Would you prefer that they continue with their plans to attack the UK military?

If they were Russian, would that change how you view their attacks on the UK military?

PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 10:27

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:24

These hate marches need to banned. I was unfortunately caught up in a mob on Thursday in Liverpool and they were like feral beasts - we were walking through Lime Street Station to the Empire when they flooded in from the steps outside where they'd been screeching 'from the river to the sea'. My young teen daughter got separated from me in the surge and was targeted by a man jabbing his finger in her face and a woman with a megaphone shrieking free Palestine down her ear. They also went in the tiny Starbucks blasting through their megaphones, the staff had to close due to the danger. We can't let this go on. And the day after the awful terrorist atrocity in Manchester - I genuinely can't see any other reason for their rampage than celebration.

The stupid accusations of the war being disproportionate should be treated with the disgusted contempt they deserve. What they really mean is Palestine isn't killing enough Israelis in the war Palestine started. I guarantee they wouldn't be crying if it was the other way round, they'd be celebrating. Just like October 7th was celebrated.

As an aside, I've also been accused of being a paid Israeli shill. I'm not Jewish either. It just reinforces my belief that they're nothing but fringe conspiracy theorists of the worst kind, emboldened by social media. 2 countries 3000 miles away fighting what really is a relatively minor skirmish compared to the horrors going on in so many countries right now including actual genocides, the focus on it is ridiculous.

It is an actual genocide - in September 2025, the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry (appointed by the Human Rights Council) concluded that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip, finding “reasonable grounds” that Israeli authorities are responsible for multiple genocidal acts under the 1948 Genocide Convention.

But you probably know more than them about genocide.

ThatCyanCat · 05/10/2025 10:27

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:20

I didn't want the protests banned because I believe in the right but I have read the police are now going to get increased powers.

I didn't want them legally banned for all the obvious reasons, but also to give these guys a chance to show they had some decency and would choose to hold off for a week or so. I knew they wouldn't, obviously, but it does show their true priority. I'm not buying this "but we cannot stop protesting genocide" stuff. I haven't seen a single one of them call on Hamas to accept the peace plan, which is clearly in the best interests of the Palestinians right now. And then once the war is done, the killing has stopped and there's a degree of stability, we can make further changes and progress on a more long term solution. The peace plan is the beginning, not the end.

But no, they don't want that. They clearly do think that indefinite ongoing killing is actually worth it for something. The only question is what that is. And I'm struggling to come up with any answers that aren't totally sinister.

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:28

@ThatCyanCat absolutely but I do think it shows them for what they are.

Firealarm1414 · 05/10/2025 10:28

Honestly I think the current "anti genocide" movement is on a par with a moral panic at this point. You're literally the latest iteration of anti jewish propaganda and you can't even see it because you're so caught up in the self righteousness of it all. Its a war. Its not a genocide. Any war is awful and I hope it stops soon. There is a deal that could lead to this but none of the protestors are calling for hamas to accept, which says it all. Even if it did lead to a ceasefire, there will probably still be marches every weekend because for those people, its not really about the war ending and I doubt they'll be able to let go of their dopamine fix of "being on the right side of history". Something tells me they won't just switch to one of the other actual genocides taking place, but will continue on with the anti israel crusade until the next current thing happens.

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:28

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:23

"Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Mark Rowley asked organisers to cancel Saturday's event in support of Palestine Action, warning it would escalate tensions and will pull police resources away from communities “at a time when they are needed most”.:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mahmood-synagogue-terror-attack-palestine-b2838533.html

They were also asked not to protest by the Prime Minister and Home Secretary.

But NO, their public self-flagellation for The Cause was more important than protecting Jewish spaces.

How easy is it to cancel large scale protests?

Look at the size of the Barca protest.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xswNEZ-2gsY?si=nXENlKGmqO-HPhwa

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:29

Firealarm1414 · 05/10/2025 10:28

Honestly I think the current "anti genocide" movement is on a par with a moral panic at this point. You're literally the latest iteration of anti jewish propaganda and you can't even see it because you're so caught up in the self righteousness of it all. Its a war. Its not a genocide. Any war is awful and I hope it stops soon. There is a deal that could lead to this but none of the protestors are calling for hamas to accept, which says it all. Even if it did lead to a ceasefire, there will probably still be marches every weekend because for those people, its not really about the war ending and I doubt they'll be able to let go of their dopamine fix of "being on the right side of history". Something tells me they won't just switch to one of the other actual genocides taking place, but will continue on with the anti israel crusade until the next current thing happens.

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The UN has called it a genocide. Who should be believed, the UN or you?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:29

wonderstuff · 05/10/2025 10:25

I’m torn on this, it’s so distressing watching the footage from Gaza and I can sympathise with people feeling they want to do something. I don’t understand why we are arresting people who are peacefully protesting, but I do understand why people vandalising military equipment should expect to have harsh repercussions from the state.

That there’s so much hate of minorities in the UK is also very distressing, that Jewish people are feeling, well not just feeling are unsafe in the Uk is gut wrenchingly awful too. I feel there’s a concerted effort to divide us at the moment, that social media is so toxic and those toxic views and ideas are spilling out and the far right and far left are emboldened.

I don’t know what the answer is, I think some centrist leadership is lacking, but I really don’t think arresting 500 peaceful protesters is in anyway helpful. They want to be arrested, they want the spectacle, there’s no benefit to putting them through the already overwhelmed criminal justice system, police are being forced to use enormous amounts of resources. I think it was a knee jerk mistake to make them a proscribed terrorist group.

These are not peaceful protests. We keep hearing that but it is utter nonsense. I've seen the mob first hand myself and the absolute violent thuggery is as shocking as it is despicable. The fairy tale propaganda lie of the peaceful protest needs to be completely stopped.

JacknDiane · 05/10/2025 10:30

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PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 10:30

Firealarm1414 · 05/10/2025 10:28

Honestly I think the current "anti genocide" movement is on a par with a moral panic at this point. You're literally the latest iteration of anti jewish propaganda and you can't even see it because you're so caught up in the self righteousness of it all. Its a war. Its not a genocide. Any war is awful and I hope it stops soon. There is a deal that could lead to this but none of the protestors are calling for hamas to accept, which says it all. Even if it did lead to a ceasefire, there will probably still be marches every weekend because for those people, its not really about the war ending and I doubt they'll be able to let go of their dopamine fix of "being on the right side of history". Something tells me they won't just switch to one of the other actual genocides taking place, but will continue on with the anti israel crusade until the next current thing happens.

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In September 2025, the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry (appointed by the Human Rights Council) concluded that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip, finding “reasonable grounds” that Israeli authorities are responsible for multiple genocidal acts under the 1948 Genocide Convention.

But you have superior knowledge. OK.

quantumbutterfly · 05/10/2025 10:30

Supersimkin7 · 05/10/2025 09:42

the cable street riots in the 30s were eventually stopped but were this popular at first.

Worrying isn't it? Pandemic followed by antisemitism and an expansionist in Europe...history is echoing.

JacknDiane · 05/10/2025 10:30

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:29

These are not peaceful protests. We keep hearing that but it is utter nonsense. I've seen the mob first hand myself and the absolute violent thuggery is as shocking as it is despicable. The fairy tale propaganda lie of the peaceful protest needs to be completely stopped.

Nonsense.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 10:31

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/10/2025 10:24

These hate marches need to banned. I was unfortunately caught up in a mob on Thursday in Liverpool and they were like feral beasts - we were walking through Lime Street Station to the Empire when they flooded in from the steps outside where they'd been screeching 'from the river to the sea'. My young teen daughter got separated from me in the surge and was targeted by a man jabbing his finger in her face and a woman with a megaphone shrieking free Palestine down her ear. They also went in the tiny Starbucks blasting through their megaphones, the staff had to close due to the danger. We can't let this go on. And the day after the awful terrorist atrocity in Manchester - I genuinely can't see any other reason for their rampage than celebration.

The stupid accusations of the war being disproportionate should be treated with the disgusted contempt they deserve. What they really mean is Palestine isn't killing enough Israelis in the war Palestine started. I guarantee they wouldn't be crying if it was the other way round, they'd be celebrating. Just like October 7th was celebrated.

As an aside, I've also been accused of being a paid Israeli shill. I'm not Jewish either. It just reinforces my belief that they're nothing but fringe conspiracy theorists of the worst kind, emboldened by social media. 2 countries 3000 miles away fighting what really is a relatively minor skirmish compared to the horrors going on in so many countries right now including actual genocides, the focus on it is ridiculous.

This is a very similar experience to mine. Screaming in daces, chanting, pointing at people who are going about their business as if we are at fault, they act like a mob, accuse you of being a genocide supporter, its awful and not helping their cause in my opinion. Of course I want the war to stop, no terrorist attacks and people yo mor die, for all conflicts, I don't discriminate about which conflicts should stop.

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nomas · 05/10/2025 10:31

lampshadez · 05/10/2025 10:26

Yes, but they don’t need arresting. It’s unsustainable.

If you are breaking the law, you are breaking the law. Supporting a terrorist organisation is against the law...

Hope you posted about the 26 police officers injured by far right yobs at the Unite the Kingdom protest. But I’m guessing not.

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 10:32

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:28

How easy is it to cancel large scale protests?

Look at the size of the Barca protest.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xswNEZ-2gsY?si=nXENlKGmqO-HPhwa

Oh so now the problem is logistics? That people simply couldn't put on hold their plans to be arrested and spend a lovely day in London instead?

I mean, people on these marches are always insisting that they're not antisemitic, and when they had the absolutely golden chance to demonstrate that they do actually care about the Jewish people they said 'fuck 'em'.

One of them on Thursday night was literally quoted as saying "I don't give a fuck about the Jewish community right now".

nomas · 05/10/2025 10:32

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Yep.

Judging by the number of likes on my post, lots of people can see it.

SomeoneSomewheree · 05/10/2025 10:32

Shellyash · 05/10/2025 10:20

BS again.

No it isn't. Israeli is carrying out a genocide and IDF soldiers are war criminals.