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Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 05/10/2025 09:16

This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

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Whistonia · 06/10/2025 17:33

NototerrorismIntheUK · 06/10/2025 17:07

Just because we all don't think like you doesn't mean we have been infiltrated. Such a sloppy comment.

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My main contribution has been to say murdering children in cold blood is wrong. I thought everyone would agree with that but it seems not. So I am very sorry if you don’t think like me but at least in my real life people do.

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 17:37

I find it crazy that there are people who are more offended by calling of a genocide a genocide than actual genocide.

25milesfromhome · 06/10/2025 17:53

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 17:31

Erm they have.

The article snippet with the misleading headline you posted literally says: The United Nations independent international commission of inquiry (COI), which does not speak on behalf of the UN.

They are an Independent Commission of Inquiry , they are not the UN, the three people in the Commission released their findings which were reported by the UN- the UN did not confirm it was a genocide.

I'm not arguing with you or offended about whether or not you think it's a genocide and you have no idea what I think about it one way or another, I'm just pointing out your interpretation of this Commission and its findings is wrong.

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 18:38

Its not crackpots and people who don't have a clue what they're protesting about either.

Daughter of a Holocaust survivor, an Anglican priest...

Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation
25milesfromhome · 06/10/2025 18:44

Nice swerve.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:48

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 18:38

Its not crackpots and people who don't have a clue what they're protesting about either.

Daughter of a Holocaust survivor, an Anglican priest...

Currently waiting her day in court for attacking a rare copy of Magna Carta with a hammer on behalf of Just Stop Oil.

She loves being arrested.

MyLimeGuide · 06/10/2025 18:52

WestwardHo1 · 06/10/2025 10:55

Great post.

Remember everyone:

GOOD PEOPLE ((left wing, supporters of other oppressed vulnerable minorities like trans) SUPPORT PALESTINE

BAD PEOPLE (right wing, capitalist, bigoted, probably transphobic etc, likely Trump supporters, probably hate the disabled too) SUPPORT ISRAEL

😂😅😂

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 19:05

25milesfromhome · 06/10/2025 18:44

Nice swerve.

  1. The Commission’s analysis in this report relates solely to the determination of genocide under the Genocide Convention as it relates to the responsibility of the State of Israel both for the failure to prevent genocide, for committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza since October 2023 and for the failure to punish The Commission also notes that, while its analysis is limited to the Palestinians specifically in Gaza during the period since 7 October 2023, it nevertheless raises the serious concern that the specific intent to destroy the Palestinians as a whole has extended to the rest of the occupied Palestinian territory, that is, the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, based on Israeli authorities’ and Israeli security forces’ actions therein, and to the period before 7 October 2023. The events in Gaza since 7 October 2023 have not occurred in isolation, as the Commission has noted. They were preceded by decades of unlawful occupation and repression under an ideology requiring the removal of the Palestinian population from their lands and its replacement.

www.un.org/unispal/document/commission-of-inquiry-report-genocide-in-gaza-a-hrc-60-crp-3/

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2025 19:13

Nestingbirds · 06/10/2025 15:23

It is a cult of brainwashed do gooders (doing great harm) howling with total incoherence. Clearly most of us are horrified at the anti semitism, but I’m afraid you won’t get through to them. They can’t answer basic questions even.

Once again I'm reminded of Shakespeare, Nestingbirds:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
Nothing, that is, except their own hatred

Had to smile at your comment about questions though. Recently a young person of my aquaintance - PhD, social media full of flags, laments about the baybeees and antisemitism, you get the idea - was ranting again about this and the subject turned to Israel's borders

So I pulled up a map of the Mediterranean basin and she pointed to that between Libya and Tunisia ...

Typo

Nestingbirds · 06/10/2025 20:54

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2025 19:13

Once again I'm reminded of Shakespeare, Nestingbirds:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
Nothing, that is, except their own hatred

Had to smile at your comment about questions though. Recently a young person of my aquaintance - PhD, social media full of flags, laments about the baybeees and antisemitism, you get the idea - was ranting again about this and the subject turned to Israel's borders

So I pulled up a map of the Mediterranean basin and she pointed to that between Libya and Tunisia ...

Typo

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I rather feel the contempt that sits rigidly, rather malignant in its form, is likely to ravage the spirit if not the body in the fullness of time.

In the meantime one must wonder if Geography even matters anymore given the desire by some for open borders. It feels a little passé.

Thegreyhound · 06/10/2025 21:08

Alltheprettyseahorses · 06/10/2025 13:27

So you saw propaganda photos. Oh look at us hiding behind what we want you to think are 'respectable' middle classers who are your betters and disabled people.

Myself, I saw them rampaging. Shrieking in my child's ear with a megaphone. Swarming around everyone. Trying to cause chaos in shops, threatening the safety of the staff. Giggling and capering around like feral beasts. Peaceful my arse. In fact, every time now I hear someone say peaceful or anti-racist I know it means the opposite.

Should I even say I've never attended or excused a march? Because it doesn't matter one whit. All that matters is that I condemn the Palestine Action ones. Like other posters have pointed out, they're not even about Palestine so arguing about Israel and Palestine is a distraction. The real purpose is themselves, it's an excuse for lawlessness and thuggery.

You 100% did NOT see them rampaging unless you are conflating your demos. The PA protests have been composed of people sitting down with signs, that is literally the whole point of them

Thegreyhound · 06/10/2025 21:10

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2025 19:13

Once again I'm reminded of Shakespeare, Nestingbirds:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
Nothing, that is, except their own hatred

Had to smile at your comment about questions though. Recently a young person of my aquaintance - PhD, social media full of flags, laments about the baybeees and antisemitism, you get the idea - was ranting again about this and the subject turned to Israel's borders

So I pulled up a map of the Mediterranean basin and she pointed to that between Libya and Tunisia ...

Typo

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I often get reminded of Shakespeare on these threads. ‘Hell is empty and all the devils are here’ springs to mind as does Caliban, the monster Prospero created

25milesfromhome · 06/10/2025 21:12

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 19:05

  1. The Commission’s analysis in this report relates solely to the determination of genocide under the Genocide Convention as it relates to the responsibility of the State of Israel both for the failure to prevent genocide, for committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza since October 2023 and for the failure to punish The Commission also notes that, while its analysis is limited to the Palestinians specifically in Gaza during the period since 7 October 2023, it nevertheless raises the serious concern that the specific intent to destroy the Palestinians as a whole has extended to the rest of the occupied Palestinian territory, that is, the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, based on Israeli authorities’ and Israeli security forces’ actions therein, and to the period before 7 October 2023. The events in Gaza since 7 October 2023 have not occurred in isolation, as the Commission has noted. They were preceded by decades of unlawful occupation and repression under an ideology requiring the removal of the Palestinian population from their lands and its replacement.

www.un.org/unispal/document/commission-of-inquiry-report-genocide-in-gaza-a-hrc-60-crp-3/

Yes, that's an excerpt from the report by the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Including East Jerusalem and Israel with the findings/opinions of its three member panel. The Commission does not speak on behalf of the UN and that's not a statement or resolution from the UN confirming a genocide.

LakesLovely123 · 06/10/2025 21:49

25milesfromhome · 06/10/2025 21:12

Yes, that's an excerpt from the report by the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Including East Jerusalem and Israel with the findings/opinions of its three member panel. The Commission does not speak on behalf of the UN and that's not a statement or resolution from the UN confirming a genocide.

It's a genocide. It's to be argued after the fighting has stopped not used as an excuse to extend it.

CleverButScatty · 06/10/2025 22:01

PsychedelicPoetry · 05/10/2025 09:45

The two other groups proscribed at the same time as Palestine Action were:

  1. Maniacs Murder Cult (MMC)
  2. Russian Imperial Movement (RIM)
MPs didn’t have the opportunity to vote on the groups separately. So as an MP it wasn’t possible to vote yes to proscribing Maniacs Murder Cult, yes to proscribing Russian Imperial Movement, and no to proscribing Palestine Action. It was all three or none.

This. It's an entirely political move.

MyFortieth · 06/10/2025 22:43

Alltheprettyseahorses · 06/10/2025 09:53

The accusations of genocide are based on Israel defending itself in the war Palestine started, is that right? Yes they did start a war - on top of the terrorist atrocity Palestine fired thousands of missiles at Israel which is rarely mentioned. So why have there been the same accusations of genocide for years? And would the same people be condemning Palestine for committing genocide if Israel didn't have its defence system and the tens of thousands of Palestinian missiles hit their indiscriminate civilian targets? I guarantee they wouldn't.

I don't think we should appropriate the tragedy of last week's terrorist attack but I wonder if the hate marchers would feel so emboldened if the deaths weren't separated off as something that happened to Jews iyswim. Would there be more condemnation of the opportunistic celebrations in Manchester of all places?

As an aside, I saw a post upthread blaming Netenhyahu for the level of antisemitic racism which is actually horrifying. Putting aside the fact that Israel is defending itself from an aggressor, just like eg Ukraine is, would the same poster argue that Afghans or Sudanese in the UK should be less safe and accept they would be attacked and killed and have mobs screeching abuse at them because of the actual atrocities committed in their home countries?

Was that last comment aimed at me?

I said “Can we agree that if Netanyahu is allowed statements on genocide [such as calling it a fraud,] @and such as [If we wanted to commit genocide we would have done it in one afternoon] that it sets the tone and standard which can be used?”

The quote is from the Triggernometry podcast.

Is it your actual view that saying Netanyahu setting the tone and standard of the debate is to be interpreted as “blaming Netenhyahu for the level of antisemitic racism which is actually horrifying”?
If mirroring his tone and the way he speaks about Palestinians is anti-Semitic then people are going to wonder why his comments are OK. I find his comments deeply sinister and threatening, he has amassed the capability to commit genocide. That capability hasn’t been lost.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 06/10/2025 22:52

Thegreyhound · 06/10/2025 21:08

You 100% did NOT see them rampaging unless you are conflating your demos. The PA protests have been composed of people sitting down with signs, that is literally the whole point of them

Do you know something? I genuinely can't believe people are so wedded to an ideology that they have the nerve to call other people liars for experiencing something that undermines their worldview. Were you there? No you weren't so it's really weird that you think you can tell me what I was in the middle of as if you'd have a clue. It was a Palestine hate mob with thugs yelling support for Palestine Action as well as genocidal slogans.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 06/10/2025 22:57

MyFortieth · 06/10/2025 22:43

Was that last comment aimed at me?

I said “Can we agree that if Netanyahu is allowed statements on genocide [such as calling it a fraud,] @and such as [If we wanted to commit genocide we would have done it in one afternoon] that it sets the tone and standard which can be used?”

The quote is from the Triggernometry podcast.

Is it your actual view that saying Netanyahu setting the tone and standard of the debate is to be interpreted as “blaming Netenhyahu for the level of antisemitic racism which is actually horrifying”?
If mirroring his tone and the way he speaks about Palestinians is anti-Semitic then people are going to wonder why his comments are OK. I find his comments deeply sinister and threatening, he has amassed the capability to commit genocide. That capability hasn’t been lost.

No it wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at a poster who straight-up blamed Netanyahu for antisemitic hatred.

Lots of countries have the potential to commit genocide and I haven't seen the episode (or heard of triggernometry at all) but unless there's more to it then it sounds like he's just saying they're not committing genocide or even intending to. So I'm not sure what other standard you think should be set.

Whistonia · 06/10/2025 23:02

Alltheprettyseahorses · 06/10/2025 22:52

Do you know something? I genuinely can't believe people are so wedded to an ideology that they have the nerve to call other people liars for experiencing something that undermines their worldview. Were you there? No you weren't so it's really weird that you think you can tell me what I was in the middle of as if you'd have a clue. It was a Palestine hate mob with thugs yelling support for Palestine Action as well as genocidal slogans.

Didn’t you say the incident happened with your daughter last Thursday? The PA event was Saturday. I think Thursday was the spontaneous demo re the flotilla. So yes, you may be conflating your demos .

Alltheprettyseahorses · 07/10/2025 00:09

Whistonia · 06/10/2025 23:02

Didn’t you say the incident happened with your daughter last Thursday? The PA event was Saturday. I think Thursday was the spontaneous demo re the flotilla. So yes, you may be conflating your demos .

Were you there too? Good grief, all these people knowing what I saw and heard better than I do from the other side of a screen. Marvellous isn't it? I have said what happened, it's very, very odd that you feel the need to argue with me about it. Ideology over truth. Basically, yous can't afford for it to have happened because it shows up how bad the side you've chosen is. Tough.

(the hate mobs were out because of the terrorist attack of course, let's have some honesty for once)

noblegiraffe · 07/10/2025 00:36

You need to be clear @Alltheprettyseahorses

Palestine Action are the mob who attack the British military equipment and put police officers in hospital
The Palestine Action protestors support Palestine Action and want them to continue attacking military equipment and presumably police officers
Pro-Palestinian protestors attack police officers and form mobs who intimidate you and your children.

They are all totally different people. And very peaceful.

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Why are you calling someone crazy for merely sharing her experience?

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noblegiraffe · 07/10/2025 07:13

Because that's all she's got.

I mean, I can post videos of pro-Palestinian protestors assaulting the police, assaulting a man with a 'Hamas are terrorists' placard, shouting verbal abuse at customers of McDonald's and so on if anyone doubts that they can be deeply, deeply unpleasant to be around.