Nearly 500 arrested for support for Palestinian Action Group a proscribed terrorist organisation

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This is getting ridiculous. The same group, think they can do what they want which includes, using a sledgehammer to attack a person, breaking into a military base and causing millions of pounds worth of damage. Hatred towards Jewish people.

It appears these people feel the law doesn't apply to them. None of the above is peaceful protest. Stronger sentences or fines are needed.

Because protesting never achieved anything you say as you're able to have a mortgage, have a bank account. Thanks to those annoying sufragettes who actually used violence at times and killed people. You'd have them labelled as terrorists unless it's just the rights and lives of Muslims you have an issue with people protesting to save.

I have not been on a march I am however pleased that people do march

Me too

On what basis do you say I'm anti Muslim? Why stoop on the personal attack?

I mentioned the suffragettes upthread. There was a huge rift between them and the (non-violent) suffragists. The right to vote came about in recognition of the war effort. Arguably the violent actions of the suffragettes delayed it.

But even if I'm wrong on that, the proposition that criminal damage to Uk military equipment or protests in this country are going to change the actions of a foreign government is baseless, and "suffragettes! Anti-Muslim!" does nothing to show a basis.

Strawman argument.

What do you want these protests to achieve? Since many on the march on the weekend knew little to nothing about the current.negotations what else do you want the UK Govt to do?

Did you look into your crystal ball and work that out or have you been speaking to protestors?

Perhaps you just jumped to conclusions and made it up to suit your own narrative.

Matthew Syed did, and wrote and article about it in the Times.

The accusations of genocide are based on Israel defending itself in the war Palestine started, is that right? Yes they did start a war - on top of the terrorist atrocity Palestine fired thousands of missiles at Israel which is rarely mentioned. So why have there been the same accusations of genocide for years? And would the same people be condemning Palestine for committing genocide if Israel didn't have its defence system and the tens of thousands of Palestinian missiles hit their indiscriminate civilian targets? I guarantee they wouldn't.

I don't think we should appropriate the tragedy of last week's terrorist attack but I wonder if the hate marchers would feel so emboldened if the deaths weren't separated off as something that happened to Jews iyswim. Would there be more condemnation of the opportunistic celebrations in Manchester of all places?

As an aside, I saw a post upthread blaming Netenhyahu for the level of antisemitic racism which is actually horrifying. Putting aside the fact that Israel is defending itself from an aggressor, just like eg Ukraine is, would the same poster argue that Afghans or Sudanese in the UK should be less safe and accept they would be attacked and killed and have mobs screeching abuse at them because of the actual atrocities committed in their home countries?

Great post.

One person's perspective and you're putting that above all these people who go out every weekend and risk arrest.

The Matthew Syed who said Nigel Farage is a socialist?

The one who openly supports Israel.

Seems totally non-biased. You should totally go all in with that. Have you ever read anything about how to think, critically? I think you'd possibly benefit.

Has Isreal not oppressed Palestinians? Have they not occupied their territory? Have they not imprisoned them without trial? Have they not murdered them in cold blood?

I always find that confusing. The Israeli hostages are being held in Gaza. Israel are indiscriminately bombing the area, tents, children, schools, hospitals. Surely they are killing the Israeli hostages alongside those Palestinians. Why do those pushing Israel's narrative seem not to care?

I've read testimonials from the families and they widely seem to attack the Israeli government's stance.

If its about the hostages, why are they killing them? Why are Israeli supporters saying its about the hostages and then supporting the continued bombing of the area they're being kept in?

Doesn't seem logical to me.

What territory? The West Bank? Which was Jordan until it was ceded to Israel in the 1967 war so what Palestinians are doing there I have no idea?

No idea what you mean by murdering in cold blood. There is a war going on that was started by Palestine, I'm sure Palestine would have murdered a lot more in cold blood than they already have if Israeli defences didn't work. Is it because Palestine is losing?

Oh I see

The Palestinians are not oppressed and shooting children in the head is fine as it’s a war!

No one makes these thugs go out. Having been caught up in one of there mobs, I can only say I'd be more than happy if they stayed home. It's not like they're making any difference but that's not really the point of them.

It's not a game of footy either, 'supporting Israel' as a slur, how ridiculous. It's knowing which side is defending itself. I'm fine with discounting the 'Palestine supporters' by those rules.

You think Israel is winning?

I mean they may have killed the most people but they've made themselves the most hated country on the planet.

I suggest you read a few history books. The Israeli settlers actually take homes built by Palestinians and have been in their families for generations. As you know and are fine with. Says a lot about you, really.

news.sky.com/story/inside-the-west-bank-village-where-palestinians-say-they-are-being-terrorised-and-pushed-out-of-their-homes-13376108

Supporting Israel wasn't used as a slur it was stating that you're not going to get an unbiased opinion from there so to base your own opinion from him would make your pov biased and worthless.

It’s the inflammatory language - Israel is always murdering children in cold blood, Palestine is only trying to get back land rightfully theirs and cruelly taken by westerners who burned down grandpa’s olive grove. There are goodies and baddies and you have to pick a side and you are being told what side to pick because how can anyone who isn’t evil pick Israel? Are you evil? If you pick the good side you can do and say what you want, the bad side and anyone on earth who says or does anything will be used to tar you with the same brush. This is the level of discourse from presumably educated people in 2025. You are persuading no one of anything other than your own blinkered unreasonableness.

Can I ask for what seems the millionth time why you people are so focussed on just Israel, and ignoring the atrocities being committed in other areas of the world? DRC for example, where an epidemic of sexual violence means soldiers are using mass rape against little girls as young as five? Just one example.

Great post.

Remember everyone:

GOOD PEOPLE ((left wing, supporters of other oppressed vulnerable minorities like trans) SUPPORT PALESTINE

BAD PEOPLE (right wing, capitalist, bigoted, probably transphobic etc, likely Trump supporters, probably hate the disabled too) SUPPORT ISRAEL

So everyone else is getting away with genocide so Israel should too? Is that your argument?

I've seen this answered many times. The Balfour agreement and the UK's role in that. The fact that we are still providing Israel with intelligence. Actual taxes I pay are helping Israel. The fact that we're still sending weapons.

The way Israel has infiltrated our govt is not democratic. Other countries should not be funding parties and giving MP's donations.

How our govt is then acting on Israel's best interests rather than the people who pay their taxes and vote for those parties and MP's. It's grossly undemocratic.

There's also the fact that many have witnessed the atrocities committed through their smartphones on social media.

It’s a thread about the Isreal Palestine conflict

Could you at least spell Israel correctly then?

Israel have ‘infiltrated’ our government have they? Do they run all the banks as well ffs. I’m ashamed to be talking to people who come out with shit like this.

You've seen this answered....