Please continue to protest!

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In the wake of the tragic events that took place in Manchester, I want to implore people not to lose steam or, more importantly, hope.

Gaza is still facing destruction, famine and genocide.

We need to continue to peacefully pressure our government to take action and sanction the Israeli government and to educate and inform people about the horrors faced by the Palestinian people day in and day out for the last two years.

People who opposed the liberation of Palestine want for this to be a turning point. For people to point the finger at a movement that wants to see the end of the suffering of millions and label it as inciting hate.

It's not.
And it's important.

Please don't put down your passion for Gaza.

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Are you aware that one of the world's leading Holocaust scholars, Amos Goldberg, who is himself Israeli, has drawn such comparisons himself and was one of the first to call the situation in Gaza a genocide?

If you caught the interview by one of the freed hostages the story of how the ordinary Gazians attacked him is harrowing!! All these “do gooders” absolutely zero interest in how much the ordinary gazians abuse women, kill gays - their appalling human rights record. They’re so desperate to feel good about themselves they will listen to anyone providing a ticket to do so, even if that ticket is to the hall of mirrors. I’d laugh at them if the effects of what they are doing (including prolonging the war leading to many more deaths can’t do serious

Absolutely this. They've shown themselves for what they truly are - anti Semitic scum. What a travesty that Jewish people no longer feel safe in their own country. I don't blame the community for heckling David lammy one bit; the government is doing nothing to protect them. Words and platitudes aren't needed, action is.

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No I wasn’t referring to you dairy I recognise your username I didn’t recognise theirs

Re your last paragraph
Which is what people are doing on these threads
Criticising the Israeli Govn and Netanyahu for their actions in Gaza

That is not anti semitic

neither is it anti semitic to support the protests calling for peace

Im not aware of any posts that call the ‘whole of the Israeli State Evil’ ?
if I saw it I’d report it. I am not selective in that
Is that on this thread ??

updated to change your name Dairy I incorrectly shortened it to the later word which I thought was the former. Time for sustenance too

Why the f do people not remember this or are they being wilfully ignorant.

This.

An increase in antisemitism is caused by people who feel antisemitic, and anything else is pure victim blaming.

Would you blame black people for an increase in anti- black racism?

I cant believe this thread is going to last much longer. Seriously.

I would say it’s very anti Semitic to undertake something knowingly causing fear and intimidation to Jews

quick call the UN human rights watch, the British Home Secretary and the Home Secretary in most European countries to let them know how ignorant they are then. You are isolated in your view. Even Nb doesn’t share your view.

Thanks Prune, and sorry for accusing you.

Yes OP called Israel, the State, evil.

I'm struggling with this thread tbh. I really appreciate all the reasonable pro Pals calling for just a short break in the pro Pal marches.

Your post has now been deleted for antisemitism.

Take a break OP.

Demonstrations are in support of peace in Gaza

All people including some in the Jewish community, some of our MPs, some in the Muslim community and even Netanyahu need to Stop conflating the two
Thats whats causing problems

It's not victim blaming, I've literally written that Antisemitism is wrong, because it absolutely is.

Same way the horrific Islamaphobia at Tommy Robinsons march was.

Netanyahu has tried to make Israel and Judaism one and the same, so that you cannot make any criticism of Israel without being Antisemitism which is wrong and also dangerous.

That's absolutely not victim blaming, it's an inevitable side effect because of his government's actions

So many gish gallopers about today.

Nonsense. You can absolutely criticise the current government of Israel without being anti semitic. I do it all the time. It’s not actually very hard. But there are a number of posters on here who are completely incapable of doing so. If you can’t divide the two then I’m really sorry but the issue is with yoy.

It’s really pissing me off especially your final paragraph how disgracefully true and how ignorant and frankly either thick or evil these people are.

She doesn’t feel anything because she will deny it till her dying breath,
“Not me guv.”

You said this-

'No, I think that any increase in Antisemitism is being caused directly by Israel committing a genocide'

Thats direct blaming Israel for antisemitism.

An non antisemitic person would be able to see that you cannot use a bad example of one person of one nationality or a policy of the government of that nation to excuse discrimination towards that nationality.

Do you think its ok to discriminate against black people because of the crimes of a black person?

Do you think its ok to call the Chinese nation evil because of their governments policy on the Uyghurs?

The last paragraph of this is HILARIOUS to me after reading multiple pro-Israel posters saying all Palestinians “support Hamas” and deserve to suffer, not even the children deserve any empathy because apparently all Palestinians are terrorists! And yet when the same is said about Israel’s GOVERNMENT then suddenly it’s generalising 🫠🤣

For it to be victim blaming, Israel would have to be the victim.

Again. You can call it a genocide without calling Israelis Nazis.

Its really very simple.

Don’t waste your breath. The people living IN Israel have protested against their own government while Mumsnet posters think they’re Netanyahu’s spokesperson!

If criticising Israel is offensive to Jews (I’m one and it doesn’t offend me or the Jews around me lol) then that’s like saying any criticism of Saudi Arabia is offensive to Muslims and any criticism of England is offensive to Christians. Bonkers.

Zionism is not the same as Judaism and you cannot build your “homeland” on the bodies of dead Gazans.

Innocent civilians on both sides of this conflict are victims. Some Israelis are victims. Some Palestinians are victims.