Labour are lifting the 2 child benefit cap

[PuppyKeep]

AIBU that this is a terrible decision?

Only statistically. If you have 3 kids and don't work or work 2 days a week in Tesco. Getting some extra money might mean you get more food and probably go a bit more overboard at Christmas, but it's unlikely to mean the children suddenly become well educated, aspirational and later on, contributing members of society.

These sort of people need support for relationships, budgeting, cooking, healthy eating, how to educate, stay off computer games and stop children becoming overweight. All the problems attached to poverty. I would far rather the money was spent addressing the family, parenting and health and education problems associated with poor families, rather than chucking a bit of extra money their way.

Also any money going in should be in voucher form so it can only be spent on healthy foods, uniforms, shoes etc.

Exactly. Financial year to date borrowing is 83.6 billion which is 16 billion more than the same period last year.

If anyone is incentivized to have more children for an extra £102 a month with housing, energy and consumables costs as they are, I’d LOVE to see it. I spend more than that a week on wraparound care.

Point me to one study that proves CB incentivizes pregnancy? And more pertinently one that proves it incentivizes pregnancy in this economy?

I agree with you. I have seen so many do this and it causes a benefits cycle.

Yes any household with one earner on £60k+ are now ‘mega rich’.

Thats why they get away with some of these policies eg freezing of the 40% tax bracket - people believe these are the rich…

I’m a lot of cases yes this will be people having a lot of dc, some (like us) have a lot of children because we took on the dc of a friend who passed away , so this will really help us a lot.

immediately lift 100s of thousands of children out of poverty.

Not necessarily. There’s no guarantee that all parents will use the money in ways that directly benefit their kids.

Brilliant idea, well done Labour!

Their policy is to lift the cap too.

Reform promise all sorts and some of it makes no sense when put together: luckily for them most people either don’t actually know their policies or are happy to hear only the bits they like.

If you need to rely on benefits to look after your multiple children maybe you shouldn't be having multiple children. It's a terrible decision, hopefully it will be revoked by the next party

I’m all for it.

As a side note, what happens if a first pregnancy is triplets? Are you only paid for two? My mind just wandered to it haha

Where will the money be coming from ? We certainly don’t seem to have any spare at the moment.

And the good old tax payer picks up the tab! Firstly absentee fathers should be made to support their children, take the money at source! Secondly too many pregnancies are not accidental, people know they’ll get handouts from the government! It’s time to stop benefits being acceptable! When I left school it was embarrassing if you had to claim benefits and you did your hardest to find work!

If you are reliant on CB to "feed" your kids, you shouldnt be having any, let alone more.

Working people who don't work full time but should usually

Rape is already an exception to the cap

Lifting people out of poverty doesn’t mean they’ll spend the money on giving their kids better lives.

Equally, it doesn't mean they won't.

Do you not realise there are more people WORKING that claim UC than people who aren't.

It’s shit but it kind of is what it is
I have had to terminate as I can’t afford a child and my contraception failed. Yes I didn’t want to but there was no other option. Same as if I got pregnant now

No - if you can't afford to have a child, don't have one. Why should the state pay for your kids?

Good. No civilised country punishes children in babies in this way, and as a policy it’s been roundly condemned for the barbaric policy it is.

Our declining birth rate is going to fuck the economy, and this was a further deterrent. All the people who are anti-immigration and pro keeping the cap never seem to have any ideas about how exactly we are going to solve our birth rate crisis. They don’t want brown babies and they don’t want poor babies, they only want a certain kind of baby being born.

If you can bring yourself or are in a position to tell the authorities that’s what it was.

Do you think these parents will use the extra money on their children though? Or will these children still be in poverty but their parents have more money to smoke/vape etc etc?

It’s not even £102 a month. Only for the first. After that it’s £17 per week.

Hopefully they will buy them all a flat screen TV each.