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To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

391 replies

Amiterriblex3 · 28/09/2025 11:51

In a coffee shop and have to listen to a bunch of 2 year old screaming, absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs. Their mothers might be immune to such noise but I am not. I would be embarrassed if my child screamed like that

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Branleuse · 28/09/2025 12:53

a coffee shop with a quiet policy sounds nice, where everyone wants that!

applegingermint · 28/09/2025 12:54

dreamiesformolly · 28/09/2025 12:51

Because they'd be tapping into a different and very much under-served demographic.

Hospitality margins are wafer thin.

There isn’t a surfeit of intolerant adults currently refusing to buy coffee, who will suddenly sustain the lost trade from parents in coffee shops the moment high chairs and buggies are banned.

dontcomeatme · 28/09/2025 12:54

ilovesooty · 28/09/2025 12:52

Are libraries all that quiet these days?

@ilovesooty I wish they were 😔 I loved my local one but it closed years ago and the city library got taken down and they opened a teeny tiny "library" in the museum instead.

Princesspollyyy · 28/09/2025 12:58

I can see where you’re coming from. I went to b&m this morning, and there was a family in the aisle next to their two young children were talking about something they had seen for sale, but they were shouting. The parents were talking back to them, but I thought it was odd that they never asked them to lower their voices or stop shouting.

how will children know, unless they are asked not to shout? I get it, they get excited and want to be heard, but the noise of them was really going through me and the parents were oblivious.

Blorengia · 28/09/2025 13:00

Coffee shops need to try this...

To want a coffee shop with a no children policy
ilovesooty · 28/09/2025 13:00

Aitchemarsey · 28/09/2025 12:46

Don't worry, we're heading for a world with a no children policy.

Really? I can't see any evidence of that.

herbalteabag · 28/09/2025 13:01

I doubt most business owners would risk it. They need a target demographic at all times of the day, so they're unlikely to cut people out. Parents with toddlers can be a large part of the late morning clientele. People on their own wanting to be quiet are not so common, unless they are working, which brings its own issues, like table hogging. Perhaps a cafe/bar?

Enigma54 · 28/09/2025 13:01

Get a coffee machine!

Hickorysticks · 28/09/2025 13:01

NaranjaDreams · 28/09/2025 12:05

We had one. It used to be a normal cafe but changed to be a “quiet space”, no children, no animals, no phone calls. They changed all their marketing to be about how peaceful it was.

It lasted four months and then changed back. Then three months after that, it closed entirely, probably because people with children, dogs etc didn’t feel overly welcome back, or had made plans to go elsewhere.

I have two children, thankfully none have ever been hugely noisy and I’d remove them if they were being so, but the cafes in town have definitely benefited from their existence. They’ve made a killing from us on maternity leave, and after, meeting other mums, going out for lunch, etc. it’s a big financial hole that isn’t easily filled by the type of people who want to sit with a hot drink and a book or whatever - the spend per customer is much lower even if they opt for cake too.

Ours even tried a “one drink, one hour” type policy but that left everyone a bit uncomfortable, the staff don’t want to be hounding people to reorder, regardless of how nicely they dress it up.

The owner is lovely and has been really transparent but it’s not an easy business model.

This is very true regarding the business. Since having a baby I spend far more time in cafés during the daytime than I have at any other point in my life. Most of the clientele in cafés during weekdays seems to be mother's with babies/toddlers and pensioners in my area. If they barred children many would go bust.

Although I sympathise with the OP as far as persistently screaming children, it's awful to listen to, especially if their parent is ignoring them. I do take colouring books, sticker books, small toys etc to entertain my child and I would remove them if they screamed.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 28/09/2025 13:02

GarlicBreadStan · 28/09/2025 11:52

2 year olds scream. They're toddlers. They push buttons.

Are the parents trying to stop them from screaming by entertaining them? This may change my perspective slightly.

No they don’t … parenting is a verb a doing word…. You don’t just let your child scream in a public cafe/ restaurant/ shop

JellyCoffeeBean · 28/09/2025 13:02

Invest in a bean to cup barista style coffee machine and then you never have to integrate with the great unwashed ever again! (It’s what I do!)

herbalteabag · 28/09/2025 13:03

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 28/09/2025 13:02

No they don’t … parenting is a verb a doing word…. You don’t just let your child scream in a public cafe/ restaurant/ shop

Everyone's young child cries sometimes. Perhaps it's only occasionally, but you could be sitting nearby when they do. It doesn't mean they constantly scream everywhere they go.

dreamiesformolly · 28/09/2025 13:04

applegingermint · 28/09/2025 12:54

Hospitality margins are wafer thin.

There isn’t a surfeit of intolerant adults currently refusing to buy coffee, who will suddenly sustain the lost trade from parents in coffee shops the moment high chairs and buggies are banned.

I'm not sure I agree, given some of the responses on here. I think there are plenty of us 'intolerant' adults (nice bit of pass-ag snark there) who would pay good money for a break from the constant screaming that seems to be considered fine and dandy these days.

Nodecaffallowed · 28/09/2025 13:05

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crunchylamp · 28/09/2025 13:06

SalamiSammich · 28/09/2025 11:55

Open one if you think it would be financially viable.

This

Or perhaps not - I'm guessing your people skills aren't great

Chersfrozenface · 28/09/2025 13:06

There are such places.

I'm not sure they can say "no children under the age of X" as that would count as age discrimination.

They can point out things like "We can't accomodate prams at any time, and have no high chairs or baby change facilities."

Mind you, Warner Leisure hotels get away with a "no under 18s" rule. And apparently are quite successful, so the market may well be there for coffee shops.

strictlynopolitics · 28/09/2025 13:06

dreamiesformolly · 28/09/2025 13:04

I'm not sure I agree, given some of the responses on here. I think there are plenty of us 'intolerant' adults (nice bit of pass-ag snark there) who would pay good money for a break from the constant screaming that seems to be considered fine and dandy these days.

Maybe someone could open a cafe for intolerant adults?
I'd be there like a shot!

Salvadoridory · 28/09/2025 13:07

SalamiSammich · 28/09/2025 11:55

Would you also bar people woth disabilities who make loud involuntary noises?

That's just ridiculous and to be honest, a bit desperate.

Aitchemarsey · 28/09/2025 13:07

ilovesooty · 28/09/2025 13:00

Really? I can't see any evidence of that.

I'm mid 30s, only about half of my friends/colleagues/peers have children, mostly only one. My son has no cousins. Much of the world has declining fertility rates; it's really only sub Saharan Africa where there's real growth.

Oaktreet · 28/09/2025 13:07

I just think they generally need to start creating spaces for introverts/stimulus sensitive people.

I used to love quiet coaches on trains, not sure if they still do them. But if feels like you can't go anywhere outside and still have peace.

Surprisedcupcake · 28/09/2025 13:08

To be honest if it's not children then something else will take the place of annoyance. You're better off working on yourself and learning to not let things bother you.

OutsideLookingOut · 28/09/2025 13:08

I do wish there were more spaces for people (and children) who like quiet. As a child I was quiet and loved quiet spaces. I sometimes think in our quest to be accessible we've made areas less accessible for some populations who are less likely to complain.

FastFood · 28/09/2025 13:09

I have one. It's called home.

InterestPiqued · 28/09/2025 13:09

strictlynopolitics · 28/09/2025 13:06

Maybe someone could open a cafe for intolerant adults?
I'd be there like a shot!

Me too! I’d love a list of banned things.

No devices on loudspeaker.
No teams calls.
No kids.
No bad table manners.

OutsideLookingOut · 28/09/2025 13:09

Oaktreet · 28/09/2025 13:07

I just think they generally need to start creating spaces for introverts/stimulus sensitive people.

I used to love quiet coaches on trains, not sure if they still do them. But if feels like you can't go anywhere outside and still have peace.

Yes. Yes. Yes!