Sick of the lie 'It's just illegal immigrants people don't like.'

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This is just not true.

Reform, the flag flyers and protesters are racists. All of this 'It's just the illegals we want gone.' is a lie to excuse their racism.

The standard of education in the UK remains higher than that of India or the like though. And most employers don’t want to sponsor employees from overseas, I work in a digital sector that attracts overseas applicants and quite often employers will outright state they can’t sponsor any applicants. Hence British candidates remain more desirable.

The fact is that there are countries such as Poland where you can have a healthy conversation about immigration and border control without being called a racist, Where the government listens to its citizens concerns.

Ah yes, Poland, which has a far-right, populist government.

Is that really what you want for the UK, @Booksaresick ?

Hyperbolic to the extreme! The only one I've seen is the polite young mother outside my local supermarket, selling the Big Issue.

130,000 care workers will be replaced by AI robots? 🤔

But you are demonising immigrants based on the actions of one.

Why is it ok for you to do it but noone else?

Women and girls in the UK are more at risk from white British born men then immigrants.

Foreign born people make up 16% of the population.
Foreign born people make up 12% of convicted criminals.

Well in the town in NE England where I live there are hundreds. A community in the central part of the town where no one speaks English.

130,000 shortage in care workers.
Dairy industry on its knees due to worker shortage, amongst others...

Why do so many British OAPs emigrate to retire in Spain? 🤔

I actually think that, as a nation, we are very good at protecting the countryside.

I live in the SE, the third mostly densely populated region in Britain. But it has two national parks and at least two large areas that are designated areas of natural beauty. The North West, iirc 2nd most densely populated region, has the Lake District national park and at least one significant AONB.

There is a debate to be had about whether these specific designations are the best way to protect the countryside, for sure, and whether there should be more protection for rural areas that abut major conurbations, but the countryside as a whole is not at risk.

You think the large numbers of young men coming into the country will be happy to choose caring for the elderly as a career path?

AI is coming, meaning a lot of these low-paid job roles will be replaced, in the farming industry there’s huge changes that will be made. Do you look to the future, when so many low-skilled job roles are made obsolete? We’ll have enormous amounts of immigrants here with no job, as well as the home population. We can’t support both.

You may think we need them now, but it’s a hell of problem to have 10/15 years down the line when there’s no jobs for them.

You'd better move away then.

I beg your pardon? Would you like to address the points I made, or is it easier to get personal?

Amazed how you think you know how everyone feels. Your opinion doesn’t trump everyone else’s..

I doubt if I'd need to use both hands to count the number of times I've seen a woman in a burqa, even when I lived in a part of Croydon that had a high proportion of immigrants from South Asia.

Yes but English still is the primary language. Your culture though around marriage remains the same as boy freely meets girl I assume?

But that’s surely different to saying ‘we have lost our culture’. No one can define what that culture is. I will get told what they don’t like about other cultures but no one can say how they and their family before them had a certain culture and now they’ve lost it.

In 2024, 948,000 came to the UK expecting to stay for at least a year. 108,000 of these were asylum seekers. Given that the rate of asylum claims being granted is 48%, we can assume that 52,000 are genuine asylum seekers and 56,000 are ‘illegals’.

I don’t understand why people claim that we don’t “have room” for 56,000 people but we do have room for almost 1 million others? It makes no sense. I suspect most of them believe that there are far more ‘illegals’ than there actually are (and for the record I don’t actually believe that seeking asylum is illegal, I’m just using the term as it’s what the racists (wrongly) label them).

I don't think it's even not "liking the illegal immigrants" for most people. It's the fact that we (including the government) have absolutely no idea who these people are or what they have done but they are being housed in the general population before their claims and identities are vetted. I understand that it may only be 1 in a 1000 that are sexual predators/criminals/terrorists or even 10,000 but I think people are just not willing to take the risk that that one person is housed in their town/city/village.

They should be housed secure asylum centres until they have had their applications processed.

Not to mention the very nature of their entry into the UK is a crime in itself.

In some ways you’re asking the impossible. People don’t necessarily notice a culture when they’re surrounded by it all the time. You don't see it because you are it. In the same way I don't have an accent when surrounded by people who sound the same.

Culture often gets reduced to food and national dress, when really those things are the most surface level cultural things. Culture runs far deeper than that, especially in England, which has no national dress. There are lots of examples of British culture that people cherish and wish to preserve.

Preserving British culture doesn’t mean freezing the country in time or rejecting change. It means protecting and valuing the things that have historically defined the UK, like free speech, the rule of law, individual liberty, the English language, local traditions, national holidays, Christian ethics, a sense of humour.

It’s about keeping the cultural DNA intact while still allowing for evolution, so integration adds to the nation, not replacing it. Just as you’d expect someone moving to Japan to respect Japanese norms, preserving British culture means maintaining a core identity that new generations and newcomers recognise, assimilate into and contribute to, not dilute.

Culture isn’t about race. It’s about values, heritage, language and shared understanding. It’s everyone sharing those values and upholding them. Otherwise this is just a holding pen for people, an island of strangers, as Starmer recently said.

85% of rapists and paedos are White British 🤔

Do you know who the people are who live around you? Do you truly know your neighbours?
Statistically, there's likely to be a white British nonce living on every street. In the year 24 - 25, in my county alone there have been 18,000 call outs for domestic abuse. 52 women are killed by their partner or ex partner every year - are these perpetrators all immigrants or undocumented ? 🤔

So all immigrants, whether documented or not, are young 'Asian' men? What part of 'Asia' are you referring to? China? Myanmar? India? Afghanistan? Where?

#racist

Interesting. Will it be affected by AI much do you think? As in will you still need to take as many people on.

Christian ethics ~ based on white supremacy and oppression.

A large proportion of white British Christians are right wing bigots, homophonic, pro-lifers, misogynists.

Thats an obvious reply. That's 130,000 in a jobs market of how.many.millions? Drop in the ocean.

Fruit picking which is always used as an example of needing immigrant labour will soon be done by robots.