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To be worried about the apparent acceptance of racism

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user1499291455 · 26/09/2025 09:42

I'm of indian heritage but born and raised in the UK and married to my white British husband. We have 3 children and I'm worried about racism towards them. I have had racism directed towards me when younger but it seemed to be getting better but now I'm being sucked into the rabbit hole of flags and alternative messages and people having p**i (edited by MNHQ) etc shouted at them by school children. I've always promoted how accepted we are and how this is our home and I feel so anxious and upset. I don't know what I'm expecting just feel sad overall.

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 26/09/2025 13:33

HarrisonsHair · 26/09/2025 10:11

Their travel costs to hospital are paid for because they can't afford it themselves, the alternative is that they don't get medical treatment, is that what you want?
The government spend the minimum amount of money possible on housing asylum seekers, they are most definitely not living in luxury
I think it's naïve to think that it is not about the colour of people's skin. It seems to have become acceptable to be racist in some circles fueled by the daily mail etc and politicians, starting with Boris Johnson.
If my children weren't white I would be very worried for their safety.
It is really sad that this is happening

I don’t think it’s helpful to minimise and downplay people’s concerns like this.
It comes across as ignoring their thoughts that just pushes more people to anger.

PiggyPigalle · 26/09/2025 13:47

5128gap · 26/09/2025 13:27

Is it? Even supposing that this were true, can you provide any evidence that demonstrates white British people are being discriminated against because they are white British?

You mean, you've never seen how we have to pay for colonialism, even though it's nothing to do with the current generation?

Edited from results to pay for.

Greenwitchart · 26/09/2025 13:47

Brexit and then the endless, supine media coverage of Farage have made the racist
and xenophobic loud mouths bolder.

Labour is not helping by also choosing to blame immigrants for our economic woes and failing to address the far right propaganda.

The best thing we can do is stand up to it and challenge the racist little cowards and the politicians that lead them.

YelloDaisy · 26/09/2025 13:49

There’s a lot of anger over the state of the country and the last 20 years of government letting things run just to buy votes. I’m sure there is more racism but there is also more hatred of MPs, anger at public servants, the fact you can’t speak to a human being if you have a problem, you can’t get a doctors appt ( threads about GPs or healthcare can be pretty vitriolic) . Unless the Gov gets a grip I don’t see things improving g any time soon.

5128gap · 26/09/2025 13:56

PiggyPigalle · 26/09/2025 13:47

You mean, you've never seen how we have to pay for colonialism, even though it's nothing to do with the current generation?

Edited from results to pay for.

Edited

Can you say a little more about how white British people are 'paying for colonialism' please? And how that means individuals are being discriminated against because they are white British?

Toastea · 26/09/2025 13:58

IDontHateRainbows · 26/09/2025 12:07

Yes but the immigration issues are fuelling the recent rise in racism so of course people will comment on that, what are you the thread police?

The point is that it is actually racist to use immigrants as a scapegoat for complex issues caused by various factors, and it's a well-known tactic used to gain political power.
Just as it was ableist to pretend disabled people were to blame for poverty and benefits cuts during austerity.

This doesn't mean that poverty, housing shortages, etc., aren't very serious, urgent problems, but that scapegoating immigrants is a distractiin from solving these problems and stokes racism.

BeHappySloth · 26/09/2025 14:02

It has been awful to see how people feel emboldened to express their racist views. It really is depressing, and as a mixed race family, we are considering options for moving overseas if Reform gets elected. I'm sorry for all who are struggling with this right now.

Plastictreees · 26/09/2025 14:05

BeHappySloth · 26/09/2025 14:02

It has been awful to see how people feel emboldened to express their racist views. It really is depressing, and as a mixed race family, we are considering options for moving overseas if Reform gets elected. I'm sorry for all who are struggling with this right now.

It has been awful. There also seems to be an increase of racism denial which is really disturbing.

user1499291455 · 26/09/2025 14:07

I agree the government has a lot to answer for but I also think that people in general (and this is purely my opinion) are less tolerant of anything or anyone that is different and definitely more vocal about it.
I can't change the way I look and politics aside, I am British and I have a right to live in this country without being made to feel less.
I will try to scroll a bit less to give myself more peace of mind and hope for a better future for my children.

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 26/09/2025 17:13

TempestTost · 26/09/2025 13:13

Talking about being the richest country in the world is pretty irrelevant, even the rich will eventually run to the end of their money and the UK has done so ,This isn't a "last government" thing they have been scraping the bottom of the barrel since Blair at least, with governments propping things up by borrowing from private companies, selling of assets, and now there just isn't anywhere else to go.

And actually most other wealthy countries are facing the same things - their tax base is tapped out and they don't have enough to cover all the costs people would like to be covered. Whether you are talking about social housing or social medical care, or people having more money in their pockets and paying privately, there just isn't enough money for all the demands.

The wealthy are already paying a massive proportion of their earnings in taxes and asking for more will likely not result in much more return because they will either move away, or reduce their earnings. in the more socialist countries like the Nordic nations, it's the middle and lower middle classes who pay more taxes, but here those are the people who are already feeling the pinch and they simply won't put up with it.

The only real way to increase the tax base witll be increases in productivity but they haven't managed to crack that nut and so far there are no signs they will.

Of course it's not the fault of anyone who has come from elsewhere what the state of governance here is - no one thinks that and talk of "fault" is misplaced, and tbh I think it's manipulative language.

The matrial reality is that if there are 100 houses, 150 people looking for them, and then the state approves 20 new migrants to come and work, you now have 70 people out of a home rather than just 50. And the people who live here, are citizens, are thinking, wtf is going on that these other people are being given priority over me? That's not about social housing either, btw, it's about the fact that on the private market 100 homes will still not do the job for 170 families, and the more families that are competing the more scope landlords have to up rents or be picky about tenants. And who ends up suffering in these cases - the people with less money to spend, who tend to be more economically and socially vulnerable.

Accusing people of blaming migrants personally is just so massively tone deaf and disengaged from people's real lives, it's really no wonder it's fuelling racial and ethnic disharmony. But ultimately it's a class issue - it's the vulnerable who suffer when migration policies are unbalance, but the pmc typically benefits, so of course they want it. And shut up the vulnerable by accusing them of racism.

Well, now they can see what they've created. And the response, often, is just to feel superior. It's gross.

Couldn’t agree more.
It is the pmc who are making things worse instead of better and their rhetoric is falling on deaf ears for the out of touch with reality statements they are making.

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/09/2025 10:10

DoinFineIThink · 26/09/2025 11:47

Completely agree, I've been here years and it's never been quite this bad.

Hear, hear. Try to call them out, they have your comment deleted. Sort it out please, MNHQ.

MrsHbouquet · 30/09/2025 13:27

This is why I say anti Muslim hatred and islamophobia is racism. "a Muslim man" for you is symbol of a brown foreigner is isn't. Why else would you compare it to how "whites" are treated.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 03:36

user1499291455 · 26/09/2025 09:42

I'm of indian heritage but born and raised in the UK and married to my white British husband. We have 3 children and I'm worried about racism towards them. I have had racism directed towards me when younger but it seemed to be getting better but now I'm being sucked into the rabbit hole of flags and alternative messages and people having p**i (edited by MNHQ) etc shouted at them by school children. I've always promoted how accepted we are and how this is our home and I feel so anxious and upset. I don't know what I'm expecting just feel sad overall.

The racism now is Digusting. I am woman of colour, quite light skinned brown, and currently being badly racially harrassed, sexually harrassed and stalked by an entire street of racist fascists who also got a pub involved a few doors down. In a nice so called posh area too. I speak good English and am clearly not an immigrant, yet they all call me a foreigner and have said they want me out, trying to push me out of the street.

So now it's me as a single brown skinned woman being daily harrassed by 20+ facist sexually harassing and stalker white men with noone helping me and they have me trapped.

It's literally horrific- the white (i'm sure also racially prejudiced) police have done nothing not even given them words of warning after 5 months and the harrassers seem to think the police are on their side, getting even worse after the initial investigation which they filed due to no video evidence, like I was supposed to film them while they were harrassing me so they could beat me up or even worse. The police are now fully complicit in the harrassment in their neglect, failure to act and sending white male officers who don't care or know about racism, sexual harrassment or gang stalking of women to 'investigate' the case.

As a woman of colour, regardless of your husbands skin colour, everyone is at risk.

These racist white people thought I'm married too and still have been doing it, nothing will stop them. I fully understand how whole groups of 'normal' Germans became Nazis now- I couldn't comprehend it before, but now I fully can. The racist psychology and racial mobbing is So Evil and Hateful, these people would physically harm me or worse if they were allowed to 100%- I have no doubt about that. They become like wild packs of dogs- it's like a nightmare. England is not safe anymore for women of colour I believe.

StrawberryJangle · 26/10/2025 05:02

It's frightening watching things unfold. I'm white British, 50 years old and in my naivety I didn't think that Brexit would happen let alone be under a Farage council what? 10 years later.

People can say they distinguish between illegal immigration and racism on here, but I'm not sure that carries on out to the general public.
One appears to be an excuse to let rip with the other, and its being tolerated.

Well @user1499291455 I'll not tolerate racism from my family or friends, I'll not tolerate bullying or intimidation of anyone. I can only hope it doesn't get worse, but I fear it will and I don't know what to do.

Noras · 26/10/2025 05:18

DancefloorAcrobatics · 26/09/2025 10:32

Immigration is being used as a focus for legitimate anxiety and anger about the cost of living, the loss of public services, the scarcity of affordable housing, the difficulty in getting access to healthcare – all of which are very real, serious issues, but are not caused by immigration itself

^This, because successive governments have not increased spending on services in line with population growth. Now spending will have to increase tenfold to make up the shortfall rather than a slow & steady increase overa longer time. Not popular, so a scapegoat is needed!

The issue is that the population might have expanded but productivity per capita has fallen and we are the lowest in Europe ( our productivity only increasing as a whole due to population expansion but plummeting per capita). We can’t afford to expand services to meet the needs of people.

FrippEnos · 26/10/2025 05:20

BoredZelda · 26/09/2025 09:54

This would be true if white immigrants were treated the same. They aren’t.

No Idea what the deleted post was, but Eastern European immigrants have been treated badly.

puffballsleeves · 26/10/2025 05:24

My best friend, who is black, who was born and bred in Hackney says the racism she is experiencing now is the worst she has known since the 80s.

spoonbillstretford · 26/10/2025 05:29

I'm so sorry OP about what people feel they can get away with saying now. It's disgraceful.

FrauPaige · 26/10/2025 05:36

@Lighttheway Your situation is perilous, unsafe and mustn't continue. Can you not relocate out of this area? It sounds an awful and dangerous place to live.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 05:38

puffballsleeves · 26/10/2025 05:24

My best friend, who is black, who was born and bred in Hackney says the racism she is experiencing now is the worst she has known since the 80s.

It's the worst i've ever experienced, but i'm in an all white, super racist street where it's like it's spread like a virus. So that's made it worse. The racist, sexually harrassing mob of white men here is so scary, like these men act like rapists and i'm scared every day.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 05:39

FrauPaige · 26/10/2025 05:36

@Lighttheway Your situation is perilous, unsafe and mustn't continue. Can you not relocate out of this area? It sounds an awful and dangerous place to live.

I can't afford to right now, I've lost my job due to the abuse, I had a high paying job before. Need to get therapy over what happened and get a job first. Thanks.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 26/10/2025 05:43

There are a hell of a lot of us who find the flag waving abhorrent.

I saw Harper Lee’s, To Kill A Mockingbird at the theatre last night. The whole audience gave a standing ovation. Not a dry eye in the house.x

Anothernony45 · 26/10/2025 05:50

Like you @user1499291455 'I can't change the way I look' or the way my son looks. The person who sees our skin colour doesn't see our family history, our British credentials, they see our skin tone. I fear for my son. I imagine his skin tone is similar to your son's.

What can we do?

Ablushingcrow · 26/10/2025 05:51

olderandnonthewiser · 26/09/2025 09:47

I think there’s a lot of confusion about racism and immigration. I don’t care what colour anyone’s skin is, or where they come from. But I do care that we have thousands of immigrants coming illegally.

This exactly.

Ablushingcrow · 26/10/2025 05:56

millymollymoomoo · 26/09/2025 09:57

Racism works all ways. Asian people are racist too towards white oeiple, as are back people. It’s not fair to say it’s only white people who are racist.

all racism is wrong.

I agree.