ID cards to be introduced. What do you feel. ?

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I have worked in serious organised crime for two decades. This is one of the best bits of news I have read in a long while. I have also been involved in ‘small boat’ arrivals. The reason people will by pass several safe EU countries to get to the UK is ‘I can get lost if I don’t get asylum’ ‘UK has no ID cards’ . It’s a no brainer .. why why has it taken so long. ? If you want to have the services your country has to offer - through most of the world - from healthcare to the library- you need to show you are a bona-fida citizen. However , for some unfathomable reason , the flag waving right wingers are always the one to oppose ..is it because they are scared it will work and leave their thinly veiled racism floundering ?

Yes to ID cards = YANBU
No to ID cards = YABU

Do you not interact with any service, ever? Do you go to the GP? A&E? The dentist? You show it once, upon registration with a new practitioner, and you're never asked for it again.

Same here with your NHS number

I'm not made of money so I'd rather carry the thing than face fines.

I’ve never had to show my NHS number, ever.

I lived abroad as a child in a country with ID cards and I don't recall it causing any angst to my British born parents. It was just another card to carry - like a driving licence or credit card.

I don't have an issue with it. I did wonder, however, if this will result in the number of people being ID'd for alcohol purchases will go up/down or stay the same.

Would you be okay with ID cards if Nigel made them compulsory?

Don't have it if you don't want it. The consequences will be entirely yours to suffer, too. Don't think any third party would care less.

Not even when you registered with your GP? I think I needed it then. Maybe I'm remembering wrong though, it was a long time ago.

I think I had to show it for the covid jabs.

I already carry my Driving licence and my Irish passport card ( live in UK). Also have 2 passports..Doesn't bother me having an ID card. However, I don't agree with it being digital, and I don't see why I should pay for it when I already have 4 forms of photo ID.
I work with people who claim benefits. The issues we have with people trying to claim, and ID checks by DWP for people who dont have it, creates a LOT of issues. So that part is positive.

I should add while I agree with ID cards I think they need to be physical

If we can have an electronic version. I rarely carry any cards with me any more.

Thinking seriously about Isle of Man, or possibly US longer term. There are probably many countries that have ID cards and manage it well, but I do not trust that that will be the case here.

Guess it’s the old adage of if you’ve nothing to hide, you’ve nothing to fear. It’s just a card, probably same size as your driving license which you keep in your purse. The majority of us will never need to flash it to anyone, unless maybe taking out credit, or some other service where we have to prove ID. Let’s be honest, how many of us on here have been stopped by police when we’re randomly walking down the street. It would only be asked for if someone was acting suspiciously.

Me either.

I had to supply my fingerprints and do photos when I moved to the UK as part of being a spouse of a British citizen and repeated every time I renewed my spousal visa.

Grew up being asked for my country’s equivalent of a national insurance number and that was my identity for everything: school, hospital, taxes, jobs, etc with my name. I had to get an ID card because my driving permit expired and I had no plans of driving and haven’t since. I’m rarely ever asked for an ID and only required it when it came to the bank, my visa, and renewal of my passport so a handful of times in almost 15 years.

It's going to be an app in your smartphone

i never renewed my passport as I had nobody to travel with so gave up going abroad, I don't drive so no licence . I am retired so no longer need ID to get employment and at this moment in time I am not asked for proof of age as one look at my hideous aged visage makes it clear that I am heading towards my grave rather than trying to get illicit booze. The main thing that is putting me off is having a photo taken of my ancient ugly mug and also losing or breaking my phone . Apparently, it is going to happen by the end of the decade so I may well be dead by then. Going to be a bugger if the system they opt for gets hacked

Interestingly, Nigel is currently in the process of exploiting the fabulous opportunity Keir has handed him. There's going to be consequences for more than that poster if he does a skilful enough job of it.

by arresting him or stopping any welfare money ? Not that I agree with the above but just answering your question

My prediction is that this will be a one-term government (thank God!), and Reform will take over. They will either reverse most of this government’s deluded and miscalculated measures or halt them in their tracks.

It’s being billed as a ‘digital ID scheme’.

Haha you don't need ID cards in the US as the police just use your dental records after they shoot you.

Seriously...do you think that the cheats don't know how to get a fully scannable working fake ID? My kids and all their friends knew how to order them on the internet and pay with bitcoin by the time they were 12. (We're in the USA and your driver license is your official ID and used for everything.)

Very much in favour of this in principle but you can be sure the UK will cock up the implementation of this and waste a lot of money on it so overall not sure if net benefits will outweigh the cost. It does work though, I’ve lived in several Asian countries where there are plenty of random checks of ID cards to uncover illegal immigrants who are then promptly deported.

I still don't understand how Britain works without ID cards. I know that you sometimes have the two witnessing co-signers setup, but that's not practical all the time. I've noticed sometimes bills are mentioned, but that sounds like a loop to me -you say to the electricity company that you are Frankie they address you as Frankie in letters, so you are now Frankie. You are obviously managing somehow, so it must be possible, but it's hard to imagine it.

Elections
Pick up a letter in private delivery mode (to a specific person, not anyone who happened to be on the address)
Prove you are the person who owns a house and can actually sell it
Get a real name of the person who is renting a flat or buying a car from you.
If the job requires background checks, establish the person.

In my country it isn't compulsory to have it at all times, but it is required for some operations and it is compulsory to cooperate with police on establishing one's identity if asked.
And police in turn has to have some reason to ask you to do that.

Why would the Right object, due to their "thinly veiled racism"?

I’m wouldn’t be happy with anybody trying to force it on me and I’m not aware of any any other political party that plan to, only Labour. And what, I’m gonnna get the bailiffs banging on my door at 6 in the morning because I had an eye test without showing my papers. And as for “Nigel” I have no idea , I’m not Reform but he’ll probably cancel the thing as a manifesto pledge.

Maybe because this didn't used to be the case in England. There was a great deal more trust. I'm old enough to remember that you didn't have to provide a passport or any ID to start a job, when you could live quite happily without having to have a bank account and you weren't expected to tell third parties your date of birth constantly. My mother is old enough to remember when you could take out car insurance with a few simple questions. We used to be quite a trusting and free society, and the more that slips away, the less it feels like home.