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AIBU to think that Digital ID will not stop illegal immigration, and nor is it a good idea?

382 replies

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 16:08

How will this prevent boat crossings?

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youalright · 25/09/2025 17:13

TheCatsTongue · 25/09/2025 17:09

No, it won't

You turn up at A&E and they do not check ID (for obvious reasons), they cannot deny treatment.

The lack of ID isn't the pull for migrants, it's all the handouts (that no one wants to limit).

I understand people won't be refused emergency treatment but iv seen migrants filling out paperwork in a&e before

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:14

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:12

That would be brilliant and check their sexual health history and criminal record

Yep. Relationship history. How many children and if they paid child maintenance.

This idea could expand massively. No one will get away with anything ever!

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:14

TorturedPoetDepartment · 25/09/2025 17:12

This is what I was thinking! The amount of times that the person who turns up isn't the driver it is showing on Deliveroo/Uber/Justeat - it's very easy for someone to have 'legal' work status and sign up then sell off their login details so absolutely anyone can use them. Digital I.D. won't solve any of that!

Im going to sell mine. Shopping trip 🛍

RNApolymerase · 25/09/2025 17:15

Old people are going to struggle with this. My mum, for example - she doesn't drive, she doesn't have a passport and her phone is definitely not smart. She doesn't have an email address either, because no computer.
Will a bus pass do?

MMAMPWGHAP · 25/09/2025 17:15

It might mean that stuff that is universally free can be made chargeable to those without UK id. Eg Museums and galleries.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:16

Elizabethandfour · 25/09/2025 16:48

Tony Blair and Peter Thiel will be the beneficiaries. They will own your data.

Yes Tony has been harping about it for awhile. Why??
I didnt vote Labour for this reason.

imagine Labour bring in ID cards ready for a reform government?!

TorturedPoetDepartment · 25/09/2025 17:16

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:14

Im going to sell mine. Shopping trip 🛍

Carry on, no one's checking! 😂

herigoagain · 25/09/2025 17:16

I’ve lived/ worked in places requiring ID, just accepted it as a given and was a handy means of identity.

Hardhaton1 · 25/09/2025 17:16

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:13

I understand people won't be refused emergency treatment but iv seen migrants filling out paperwork in a&e before

I’ve seen the paperwork too, and it doesn’t quite say Mickey Mouse to the left of Snow White cottage
But it’s not far off

Theoturkeyistheonlyturkeyonmytable · 25/09/2025 17:16

I haven't got a problem with it ..but maybe I don't understand the implications.
I will read this thread and maybe get a better understanding

BloominNora · 25/09/2025 17:18

Dolphinnoises · 25/09/2025 16:28

It stops a major pull factor. Migrants know that of they come to the UK, as opposed to France or Germany, that our lack of digital ID means they can start work under the counter pretty much immediately.

I don't see where this idea has come from?

Most of the data I can find says that the British grey and black economies are either the similar or smaller than those in France, Germany and southern Europe, which surely means it would be harder to get illegal work here than in those countries?

Its similar to the benefit arguments and Britain being some kind of migrant / asylum seeker utopia, when the weekly rate for asylum seekers in France is actually higher than the UK and it is easier for them to get permission to work.

Access to health, education and state benefits for migrants is similar across both countries but again, benefits are generally more generous in France and the health system is definitely better, at least at the minute with tue current state of the NHS.

I wonder if all this anti-immigration guff about super high numbers and people wanting to milk the system is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Anti-immigration advocates use the high benefit / black market work as a siren call to the cause, creating a perception that has no basis in truth.

Through the press and word of mouth, migrants and asylum seekers hear about this apparent British migrant utopia and believe it to be true, so as word spreads, more and more try to come over here, which then further fuels the perception that they are coming to take advantage of our lax policies.

Sarah2891 · 25/09/2025 17:18

I have no problem with ID cards

cardibach · 25/09/2025 17:18

user5972308467 · 25/09/2025 16:36

Will it be as well as or instead of a passport?
Not keen on shelling out another £90 every 10 years!

No suggestion on cost or renewal so don’t worry about that yet.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 25/09/2025 17:19

It really would be politically idiotic of Labour to try and bring this in. It'll be incredibly controversial, expensive whether people are expected to buy their own or the state funds it, and isn't going to achieve the things supporters want.

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 17:19

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:07

It will stop illegals accessing the NHS and other services. It will be one less pull factors.

How?

Once people are here they will be able access services, by virtue of being here!

Digital ID will stop nothing - just cost the UK a lot of money.

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DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 25/09/2025 17:19

I wonder how they reckon this is going to work in Northern Ireland?

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 25/09/2025 17:21

We are already the most surveiled country in the world. We each have an NI number. I’m also against anything that demands every citizen have a digital device. I’d like the right to decide I don’t want a smart phone anymore. I’m already living with the tyranny of fucking apps for everything.
Im still livid about the id needed to vote law that was brought in, since the old system had worked pretty well for generations .
But mainly, as a country we have always had a system of being able to assume we will be left alone as long as we follow the law and not have to prove anything if we’ve done nothing wrong. I categorically do not trust any government we might have to not abuse an ID scheme.
Strongly against.

WhereAreMyAirpods · 25/09/2025 17:21

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 16:08

How will this prevent boat crossings?

I think the idea is to make the UK less attractive by cutting illegal working. Unless they extend it to deliveroo/just eat delivery riders it's pointless.

RedRiverShore5 · 25/09/2025 17:22

So will anyone that hasn't got a passport need to know someone of good standing in the community or someone with the right sort of job to get said ID.

cardibach · 25/09/2025 17:22

MissFitss · 25/09/2025 16:49

No ID, no benefits, no housing, no job, no healthcare, no nothing.
I'm personally quite happy to lose some freedoms in order to remove people from the UK who should not be here.

Except it is not for that.

It s only going to be needed by people working.

They will work on the black market as they do now, under the radar.

How are you saying that so confidently when nothing is decided yet? From what I’ve read that’s not the intention at the moment anyway.

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:23

TheCatsTongue · 25/09/2025 17:09

No, it won't

You turn up at A&E and they do not check ID (for obvious reasons), they cannot deny treatment.

The lack of ID isn't the pull for migrants, it's all the handouts (that no one wants to limit).

They could make the NHS an input ID before any treatment.

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:25

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 17:19

How?

Once people are here they will be able access services, by virtue of being here!

Digital ID will stop nothing - just cost the UK a lot of money.

Surely it will only be issued to Brits and immigrants who are here legally?

RedRiverShore5 · 25/09/2025 17:26

It was a bit off putting that on the news on the radio this was the top story, swiftly followed by 2 hacking stories.

RedToothBrush · 25/09/2025 17:28

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 16:08

How will this prevent boat crossings?

It won't.

It is a PR exercise in flag waving.

I am against them for a whole host of reasons. I mean what could possibly go wrong with a massive government computer system which is a single point of failure and a magnet for every criminal ever when they pay shit for developers or outsource every project to the lowest quote (including overseas contractors).

To cap it off it's being dubbed the Brit Card already which means it's doomed to fail like the last attempt to do an NHS computer overhaul.

It'll cost a fortune, be riddled with problems and will result in a Kafkaesque nightmare for any unfortunate to end up the victim of identity fraud or mistakes on their file as it will be impossible to rectify errors or thing that end up on your file that shouldn't.

The tweet I've just seen sums it up the car crash it will be in practice.

Nice idea in principle, but put in the hands of a PM and his advisors desperate to have a popular eye catching policy that people will get behind? Na. This isn't it.

It's an expensive idea to try and save Starmer's job.

AIBU to think that Digital ID will not stop illegal immigration, and nor is it a good idea?
softstone · 25/09/2025 17:28

Elizabethandfour · 25/09/2025 16:47

People who are happy to give up freedom, don’t deserve it.

The government could stop illegal immigration tomorrow but they don’t want to. This is about enslaving the English.

How could they stop illegal immigration tomorrow? Genuine question btw!