AIBU to think that Digital ID will not stop illegal immigration, and nor is it a good idea?

[Westfacing]

How will this prevent boat crossings?

Hiya NCA friend please could you get your chums in Border Force to get off their arses and start clearing the massive shanty towns before you start asking for information you won't use anyway? Cheers beaucoup.

Phones are stolen in places other than London, batteries also run out in other places. Not sure what "in London" has to do with it

Good luck with mine.

It's about 19yo, perfect battery life - still works, so I can make phonecalls and send texts.

No way am I having a smart phone.

Turkish barbers don't and won't ask for ID.

Sneaking this through the back door of immigration control. Believe me, I live in Italy where we have digital ID cards and there is a black economy with plenty of illegal immigrants. This will not solve the problem, it's just something they'd like to have to track you. ID cards are awful, it makes you feel like you love in a police state. At least here it means you don't need a passport to travel in Europe. In the UK there is literally no advantage to the citizen.

Can't be long now...
And some people will welcome that too.

London is used as an example because it's particularly bad with phones stolen at a rate of 1 per minute or something.

Maybe we should be chipped like my cats?😹

People will start to have issues when Covid style restrictions come in, and govt can start restricting access to public life

If you think the government is capable of creating an IT system that interfaces with the system of every bank in the country you must be the most optimistic person in the world.

Why stop there. Chip everyone the way we do cats and dogs.

Yep or that. Faster too than a tat.

Ah I didn’t know that. Sorry! But even more reason not call it that

I'd love that wouldn't have to worry about being kidnapped

This too. Can see people being barred if they don’t have all the vaccines including childhood ones.

The fact that the UK is one of very few countries in Europe with no ID card system (either mandatory or optional) is often cited as a major pull factor for economic migrants.

It will stop illegals accessing the NHS and other services. It will be one less pull factors.

I already have a British passport which is used to verify my ID so what is the point of having another card? Beyond having to pay more money to the government? Another stupid idea from Starmer.

It would have to include a tracker as well as digital information.

Maybe we could include relationship status to stop all the cheating bastards. I’ll scan you at the start of the date.

No, it won't

You turn up at A&E and they do not check ID (for obvious reasons), they cannot deny treatment.

The lack of ID isn't the pull for migrants, it's all the handouts (that no one wants to limit).

You have to enter the country to claim asylum. Therefore not illegal.

So it will stop all the expats returning to get their health care done on the nhs before returning back to Spain or Australia?

Of course it won't stop illegal immigration. Which is why it still exists in countries with mandatory ID systems.

People will work illegally in roles where the employer/person buying the service doesn't give a shit, just as they do now, and they'll get stolen or bought just as passports and driving licences do. It's not going to do the things people hope it will.

That would be brilliant and check their sexual health history and criminal record

This is what I was thinking! The amount of times that the person who turns up isn't the driver it is showing on Deliveroo/Uber/Justeat - it's very easy for someone to have 'legal' work status and sign up then sell off their login details so absolutely anyone can use them. Digital I.D. won't solve any of that!

Its definitely coming